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here are a few quextions about space marines i would like some info to...
ok first one: i belive that space marine techpriests, the adeptus mechanicus and so on cannot actully make land speeders anymore, because the technology has been lost, but few people tell me that they can, but once again they have no idea how the stuff works. can they make land speeders?
second one: Power armour, i say yes they can make it, but its not like a factory production line like making lasguns... it takes time, lots of time.... people argue with me and say they cant. i say they cant make terminator armour but they can make power armour. so can they make power armour?
Third one: land raiders, i say yes they can make them (not sure on this one) and some say they cant, so can they?
Fourth one: dreadnoughts, i say yes they can make them, as in the armour, but they cant make a certain unit in it which preserves the mind of the marine inside it... they cant compeltly make it but yes they can make the shell, which then leads to further argument, why can they make dreadnought shells, but not tactical dreadnought armour... yeah...
Fith one: artificer armour, i say no they cannot make such relics, but other argue... can they make artificer armour?
sixth one: plasma guns, no they cant make them, other argue and say yes they can... well???
ok now some questions on eldar:
probebly a bad time but can eldar understand and re make thier own weapons? ie do they understand how a D-cannon work? can they make there own skimmers and understand how they work???
thank you for you time... cheery o's
Yes to pretty much every question. Pretty much every thing you mentioned is difficult and time consuming to make but the tech-marines/AM can and do still produce it, its just not like their pumping them out at factory speed. But yes, all types of vehicles, armors and weapons used by the SM are currently and constantly in production. The Plasma weapons especially, since the IG use them almost as often(more often on a pure numbers basis) than the SM.
Furthermore I do believe that yes, the Eldar are capable of understanding and reproducing their own technology, though just how tahts done may vary from craftworld to craftworld.
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One: Yes they can do them. It is just outlawed in any other military force since the Heresy, Marines have monoploy on them.
Two: Yes. Both Termie and Power, but the Termie is rarley produced since most Terminators inherit the armour of an older warrior when they fall.
Four: Here I am not sure, I belive they can to some extent but most of it is forgotten. Dreadnought armour is after all recovered from battle and repaired if it would be destroyed.
Five: Yes. Artificer armour is made by the best Tech-engineers out there and are given to honoured individuals as awards, gifts of honour, etc. Like master-crafted weapons.
Six: They can, but it is slowly being forgotten. Plasma weapons are rare but still in production. Altough it is a little weird that they are forgetting to make plasma weapons but the enormous plasma engines of starships are simple for them to produce. Could be that it is harder to create plasma in smaller devices.
The Eldar perfectly understands their technology and ae fully capable of creating new one. they are also advancing their technology, refining it and making it more effective. Altough they don't do major changes anymore, not much more for them to discover.
Last edited by Da Mighty Camel; July 29th, 2006 at 17:29.
Camel is spot on for most of what he says, I'll just give my 2 cents:
Anti-grav technology on the scale required to power a vehicle is quite rare in the Imperium. The Adeptus Mechanicus regard it as "black" technology and heavily restict its use. Space Marine are some of the only Imperial servants allowed to use such advanced tech. Some novels (especially some of Dan Abnett's earlier work) show anti-grav vehicles as being a little more common, but the general idea is that it is extremely rare. That said, they are still being made, but only in small numbers and they are only entrusted to the Imperium's greatest servants, such as Space Marines.
Camel answered this perfectly - listen to him, for he is wise in teh ways of the fluff You are right - it is not a factory line style of production. In fact, most of the SM equipment is made by highly skilled artizans (techmarines etc) in the Chapter forge, not much is mass produced.
Indeed they can make them. Apparently all SM forges are equipped to do so (have a look in Imperial Armour volume 3). During the Great Crusade all the Imperium's forces were equipped with LRs, but since then they have been limited to the SM chapters (and inquisition) for fear of another Horus-style Heresy (i.e. for the same reason they split up the SM legions into chapters).
Dreadnought Armour can still be made, but it is almost impossible; taking a highly skill techno-magos hundreds of years to build just the one. For this reason, only the most skilled SM warriors can be interred in one, and if one is lost in battle, SMs will fight their utmost to recover the fallen sarcophagus. Incidently, I wish dreadnoughts were all WS+BS 5 ingame - they are all mightly SM heroes after all...
I agree with camel on this one. It is made, but in very limited numbers.
Yeah they can still make Plasma weaponry. The Forge World most famous for Plasma weaponry is Ryza, the only world whose defence legions are equipped extensively with Leman Russ Exectuitioner Plasma Tanks. Like all hi-tech things in the Imperium, the art of plasma weaponry is being lost slowely, but it can still be made.
I agree with Camel. The Eldar understand the technology they make and view humans in contempt for (amongst other things) our poor understanding of the technologies the Imperium uses. I don't think they advance much, mainly because they are so advanced already.
Hope this helps matey.
the one thing i didnt know really was that they can make terminator armour. because even in the space marine codex is says they cant..
it all makes sense now. i was thinking, why would they be sending land speeders in if they cant make them and they die easy, same with terminators except they dont die easy. i now have more pride in my black templars.
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Anti-grav technology is pretty simple. It's just not widely used, for unknown reasons, even though Dan Abnett frequently shows it being used by civilians. Presumably, it's harder to armour a vehicle that has to fly, making it more practical for civilian purposes than military.
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