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Before you send a mail bomb, let me explain myself
I came up with the idea as I was designing my black templars army. Looking at the models there is not a lot about them that stand out. So I did some thinking, Black Templars reason for existence is to prove there loyalty. They don't follow the Codex Astrartes. I quote
"The Black Templars are organised in a different manner to many Codex Astartes in certain ways, notably in the recruitment and training its warriors." Page 12, Warhammer 40,000 Black Templars, Publisher games work shop.
So, I cannot see a reason way the chaplins would reject the idea of recruiting females if they met the criteria. It is true that Females have less body mass in genetics, but the neophotes go through massive surgery any way.
At this point you may Think, What Women in there mind would be hard core enough to join the black Templars. I have a ruff idea of how. As you know power corrupts. So if you think of an isolated plant, where the local Ecclesiarchy gos a bit far, turning good people into followers of the choas gods, as the Emperor and the choas gods are same thing, Right??.
(never under estimate the power of peer pressure and propaganda, dont believe me, look at what some priests have said in the real world and gotten a way with...)the local sisters of battle force are divided on the matter , From those true to the text of the Emperor and those loyal to the local Ecclesiarchy.To put an end to this, The goverment crakes down on thoses how remained true were hunted down as heretics, Those brave enough to fight get driven back to the Black Templar keep on the plant, making a last stand as they send out a call for help, With the hole plant trying to kill them, they would become some of the hardest fighters known. When the rescue becon is pick up by the nearest crusade, they fly to the plant surface to find there keep under attack. They would go and protect there keep and restore order on the plant with the nessary executions. Now needing to replace there casualties They would look for the hardest warriors on the plant who where still Fateful. The only candidates left alive would be thoses sisters of battle.
So there you have it my concept of how to have a multi Gender Black Templars army. Please let me now you thoughts and if i have made a mistake somewhere.
I am planning on making the the terminators with lighting claws as soon as i can aford to buy them. LEt me know if you think its over the top
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Convert all you want. But this is impossible fluffwise. The thing is, females can NOT become spacemarines. It is not the fact that they have less muscles (bull****, some of them do ), nor the fact that it is hard to fit breasts into power armour.
You said yourself that neophytes go through a LOT of sugery. All them implanted organs will only function correctly if implanted into a male. It has to do with hormones. And one more thing. You really want your assault terminators getting extra battle-mad once a month?
I'll go out on a wild goose chase here if you don't mind.
Seems ogood but a major fluff problem is that the geneseed and implants to make space marine only work with males due to some chemical or some other process. Im sure in the Emporers time it might have been possible but peoples knowledge has decreased over time
therefor limitin them.
Another thing i noticed now is that Sisters of Battle are all over 20 atleast. Thats because due
to the decease in knowlodge only boys around my age (lol) could become Space Marines due to the groweths required and all of that.As above it was possible with tyhe Emporer to make adults
Space Marines, such as the Khans warriors becoming Space Marines.
If you could work your way around that im sure it could work out its a good idea though.
(Beaten to it)
I hear what you are saying, Females do have different hormones, but that is not due to not having male hormones. Female hormones are there to insure the survival of the human race, thats why women live longer. The only diffrence physical diffrence between a male and female is the child bearing orgains. The rest of the diffences are caused by up bring and hormons. Both Hormones can coexist. look at female body builders, or the mexican men who developed breast after eat chickin with female hormons to make the chickens grow faster.
To ansaw your last point, i would like to tell you a story of a friend of mine, she is a black belt in zenzukai. Her boy Friend was dum enough to leave her at that time of the month.
Lets just says after 6 hours of surgery his face was still out of shape...
I have been looking through the all the books i got on space marines, i can not find any thing that says they cannon female, i could be wrong or not read some thing. If any body could point me towards some more reading i would be very greatful.
Growth is all caused DNA, At 14 most males get are at there most active part of there deveolpment. It is possable to insurt drugs into a humans system, to make them go through puberty again. To know what to do it to achieve that might of been lost, after all, 38 000 years is a long time.
Do a search, you'll find plenty of references to why you can't have female marines, I have lost track of the number of times it has been "discussed". GW has quite plainly stated, in the Index Astartes articles, that the transformation of human to Marine can only work when done with males because it has been keyed to the male hormones, and that was done back in the Golden Age, when the Emperor walked. If they couldn't make female marines back then, they can't now.
That's all I'm going to say, because quite frankly people should just accept it a canon law.
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Its in the first IA at the front when they discuss "Making a Space Marine".
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Actually if we want to go with what GW said; geneseed and the organs it runs are keyed to the male zygote, mainly the chromosome half that makes a male a male. Without that the geneseed rejects the body it is being implanted in and can not work. Its explained in Making a Space Marine in index astartes like Sabe said.Originally Posted by mpdscott
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that makes sence, the emperor is a male, adn the primarches were male
and if it was possible, then you would have to administer the seed at an earlier age, cause the girls enter puberty at roughly age 10-12, where boys enter it at 12-14, very different
I don't know how many times I've seen this argument on Librarium and oh how I remember all the wonderfull flaming that followed everytime someone mentioned the word "female" in combo with "Space Marine". I agree with everyone else, there CANNOT be any female space marines. Go ahead and compalin all you want but the idea of space marines with breasts isn't going to be a reality, EVER. If you want Female Space Marines you are playing the wrong army. Sisters of battle have power armour too, although they lack about everything else a space marine has. So if it's girls in 3+ save armour you want, then play Sisters, don't try and argue the sexist battle in the ranks of the emperor's finest. Good Fluff though.
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