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Hey guys, i only just realised this fluff forum exists, and was hoping for some fluff help from some experts instead of my mate who plays orks not tau (damn greenskins!)
Anyway in tau i know O'shovah has a special C'tan weapon (god i love it when people think he is just another weak crisis suit!) and i was wondeirng if the c'tan are now using him under their control or just maybe persuading him to do certain things every now and then?
any help will be apreciated thanks in advance!
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The Dawn Blade is not verified to be a C'tan weapon, and I know of no fluff that claims it is or even implies that it might be. There is no reason to suppose that it is a C'tan weapon, other than that it looks vaguely Egyptian. Additionally, all C'tan weapons so far have ignored both normal and invulnerable armour saves- The Dawn Blade's rules are completely different.
I've not seen it myself, but I have heard there was some fluff somewhere that implied that the Dawn Blade might be an Eldar Artefact. Something about an Eldar prince upset that his weapons had never been delivered or something like that.
In any case, nothing regarding O'shova's motivations are known for certain and anyone who tells you otherwise is wildly speculating.
Everyone at my local gaming club says otherwise, they all assure me that it is a Ci'tan weapon, and when i told them it doesn't invulnerable saves awhile ago they said that no unit uses a c'tan weapon except for some imperial assasin they mentioned and that all the necron weapons where crafted by the necrontyr. (i know the necrontyr are just necrons before they went all terminator style)
The people at your club are pushing their own views. GW has never given us an official answer on what the Dawn Blade is.
Farsight is mysterious. We don't know very much about him at all. I think that's deliberate, but it does lead to a lot of people trying to fill in the blanks themselves. Mystery is often more fun than being told everything down to Farsight's shoe size and favourite flavour of ice-cream.
Ask the people at your club where they heard the C'tan weapon stuff from.. My bet, it's from another person, who then heard it from another person.. continue until you get bored or find some idiot somewhere who suddenly decided to squeak 'wow.. t3h dawn blade is a C'tan weapon.. Fear t3h overpowered C'tan fluffzors!'
Last edited by The_Giant_Mantis; August 16th, 2006 at 03:44.
I've actually heard that it could be a daemon weapon, too. Mmm, chaosy Tau. Would serve that upstart race right.
Besides, everyone knows Farsight's favorite ice cream is strawberry. It's red like him! Though he hates chocolate chip mint because it's green and orky. Mmmm, orky ice cream...
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Tau can't be corrupted by chaos due to the fact they don't use psychic powers and have no contact with the warp, except for warpstorms that kill them but besides that yeah no contact with the stuff that chaops uses to corrupt so we are safe!Originally Posted by Atma
Well that is unless our base on medusa V succeeds then we will be able to use warp travel but i doubt we will succeed especially with the whole AAARRRGGGGHHHH THE PLANETS GUNNO DIE!!! thing going on....
Tau are susceptible to daemons.
They just don't have a warp presence, so the daemons can not 'see' them.
Gareth is the person I try to impress when I convert and paint.
Yup. Or maybe they can see them, but barely so.Originally Posted by Astantia
In any case The Black Sword, the Tau are not immune to the Warp, they merely lack any psychic ability whatsoever (aside from perhaps the Ethereal ability to command Tau might be psychic, or it may very likely be pheremonal. I don't believe GW has explicitly said this.) They also don't understand the warp or psychic powers or daemons, and regard it as some sort of hallucinogenic weakness in other races, but they are vulnerable to it in truth. There are some background stories out there where Tau get affected by the Warp, including one where a commander mistakenly believes that he killed Slaanesh.
Now, the following is my own speculation, pulled entirely out of my hrrrrmmmm, and should not be confused for anything official or known.
I believe the Tau inexperience with The Warp makes them expecially vulnerable to manipulation by daemons. I don't know about direct psychic manipulation, but once separated from the rest of Tau society their fanatacism to the Greater Good would make them easy to decieve and manipulate.
The reason Tau don't get utterly ruled by daemons is that being so psychically dull, they just don't make a good vessel or meal for a daemon. Greater Daemons with more farsight might think to control some Tau to advance long-term goals, but most Daemons wouldn't be that self-disciplined.
The best Dawn Blade theory I've heard (which might be what JOHIRA was referring to) is that the Eldar made a small number of extremely powerful swords during a nasty war long ago. One of the swords turned out to be defective at the worst moment and was lost when the bad guys won. Farsight found it aeons later. He has no psychic ability to fully activate the sword and doesn't realize that it's a defective Eldar doomsday weapon, so he's been using it as an ordinary power sword ever since.
I like the story because it perfectly captures Tau's innocence and cluelessness in the wide, wide galaxy.
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