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Here are a few fluff questions that me and my friends have been arguing over for the last few days.
1. How long could a Space Marine last, stuck in the middle of nowhere? (say his drop-pod miscalculated its landing spot, and hit the middle of a desert)
2. Could Tyranids digest Necron material?
3. Is it true that the marines have lost or forgotten the technology to produce more Terminator armour?
4. Can Lasgun fire be reflected by mirrors?
5. Are there female space marines?
6. Why are there no chaos, mutant or daemon orks?
Thats about it for now, thanks for any answers!
According to the fluffmasters of LO and the current, published fluff, no.Originally Posted by Jakester
According to those of us who think the players control 50% of the un-published fluff, yes.There kinda are. Just no actual army list for them. :yes:Originally Posted by Jakester
Ok, so I will continue to pretend that my Apothecary and Commander are both female. Too bad about the chaos orks, I would love to see a Nurgle warboss! (or better yet, a nurgle squiggoth!) Mabey when I get good at painting and modeling, I will have to try to make one.
1. A long time. Marines are far more hardy then humans so they tend to far more resilient to the elements. If he was in his power armour then he could last even longer. Power armour is climate controlled and contains a nutrient source which could keep the marine going for a fair while.
2. Im not too hot on the necron fluff, but if they are all metal then I would say no. That is not to say the hive mind couldn't learn from, and ultimately adapt to, the necron way of war.
3. No. Techmarines can still make suits of Termie armour, but it is a long and difficult process..
4. I don't know about normal glass mirrors, but in Necromunda there is an item of wargear called the "mirror shield" which can reflect fire from energy weapons. I should imagine these are made from special metals rather than glass mirrors.
5. No. The space marine geneseed is specifically designed to work with male physiology. Some would disagree with this; it has ended in many raging debates in the past
Hope this helps mate.
So, the marine would most likely be able to find his way back to his brothers before he died of hunger/dehydration/exaustion/whatever else.Originally Posted by rp252So if the Tyranids were to attack a necron planet, even if the Tyranids won, they would still end up loosing resources (because they wouldn't be able to replenish their numbers by eating the corpses of their fallen enemys), not including what resources they pull out from the planet itself.Originally Posted by rp252Awww, so that means I can't just slap some cheap mirrors onto my Firewarriors and make them unstopable against the IG soldiers? Darn, there goes that strategy...Originally Posted by rp252
Thanks for the answers, this is gonna help clear up some arguments (although untill I hear a definate NO I'm still gonna have female space marines.
No, they would end up with a net gain. You have said not to include the resources they pull out of the planet, but the Tyranids would still be able to reclaim the biological matter of their dead. They would also likely be able to absorb some of the metals that necrons use in their construction (the human body uses metal molecules for may thing - I can only assume Tyranids do as well) and so gain resources that way. When answering your earlier question I assumed you meant Necron genetic material, oops. I should imagine that tyranids could 'digest' some of materials a necron is made from, but as Necrons have no genome as such the tyranids could not absorb and evolve from it.Originally Posted by Jakester
Although you're excluding the resources they pull form the planet, it is important to consider that the amount the Tyranids would pull off a planet would be remarkable, probably enough to justrify the invasion from a purely resource based point of view.
Lost Nemesis is correct though, Tyranids tend to avoid Necrons if they can.
If he came from a chapter which still had the Sus'an membrane (i.e. not descended from the Imperial Fists) he could bury himself or find a shady rock to hide under and hibernate for a very long time. Possibly decades or even centuries. It's risky though, even if his chapter found him, there's no garuntee he could be revived, plus the elements over that long a period have got to do some horrible stuff to you. Sand is acidic, after all.Originally Posted by JakesterI don't know. They could probably eat it, but as for digestion I'm not sure. The metal wouldn't die, so poor mr Tyranid could find a hand suddenly bursting from his chest at an inopportune moment.Originally Posted by JakesterWell.. they never had it. Terminator armour is produced by a few genius tech priests of the adeptus mechanicus. They can still do it, but it's quite rare.Originally Posted by JakesterProbably.. Inquisitor even features 'reflective' armour which works on that principle. In reality, few mirrors are that perfect. They'd heat up and shatter from the energy of the laser.Originally Posted by JakesterNo.. some people seem determined to make them up though. Hey, if women the size of grizzly bears with muscles that would make professional bodybuilders weep do it for you, go ahead..Originally Posted by JakesterThere are.. they're just quite rare. Orks are pretty resistant to that kind of thing. General orkyness and having a mind like a brick makes them quite hard to subvert or possess.Originally Posted by Jakester
Last edited by The_Giant_Mantis; August 19th, 2006 at 00:40.
Ok i can add to the necron question.
According to the fluff the hive fleets avoid the tombworlds. Yes i said tomb worlds. Now the vast majority of tomb worlds are also dead worlds so the nids would have little to gain from the planet other than some chewy metal that never seems to break.
Yes i guess it is possible for a carnifex to swallow a necron warrior but it could phase out of its digestive system and repair itself while being digested. So now the nids would gain nothing from the necrons. To add to that the only necrons that retain a fragment of their individuality are the lords and as i said it is a fragment. So nothing to be gained from eating the crons other than broken teeth that is and an awful stomach ache.
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That gives me an amazing idea for a model (if i were to ever buy a necron army). Having a necron warrior, or mabey something more powerful bursting out from the side of a dead tyranid warrior, or lictor, mabey something bigger like a carnifexOriginally Posted by The_Giant_Mantis