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I'm currently putting together my own Dark Angels successor chapter and i'm looking for an excuse to give the master a jump pack. It lead me to wonder the exact process for the 'real' creation of the successor chapters.
Say you have the 3 chapters created from Dark Angels, each containing 1,000 marines. This was the case right?
How does another chapter come from them? Do they created 1,000 marines in test tubes and give 'em a push' and you have a new chapter, or does the 'parent' chapter have to double up for a while, training an entire chapter of new recruits?
Would the new Chapter Master and Company Masters come from an existing chapter where they have a lesser rank and no-where to be promoited to, or would they be given extra fertiliser while growing?
GW didn't fill in the gaps and I haven't either but this is my grasp of the situation.
Yes, there are female marines and my Sunhawks will let you know in a major way.
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Whilst we're on the subject of successor chapters - would a DA succesor chapter automatically benefit from the intractable and other special rules associated with it?
Would a BA succesor have red thirs rules etc.
Could a successor chapter be given traits? And have the special rules?
I undertand the forming of a successor chapter to be as StGermaine stated - sketchy and vague, with plenty of scope rulewise to invent your own, but little to back up why they actually exist.
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Thanks a lot for the help there St. Very helpful.
It so very like GW to leave out something as critical as this. I assume its never been covered in any GW fiction? Fancy missing this out?
Anyway, I think my initial reasons for asking have been justified. A master of a company from a 'parent chapter' could go on to become a Master of an entirely new Chapter and change to the chapter to suit his own methods or tactics: The master of a Devastator company would teach his pupils totally differently to a master of say an assault company or the Ravenwing company.
Such personalites could distinguish a Chapter's preferred combat methods forever and alter its Chapter's company organisation in time.
It very much depend on the special cases of specific Chapters whether their Successors must inherit their unique traits according to the fluff. To use the Blood Angels for an example, their Red Thirst is caused by a flaw in their gene-seed, and so all Blood Angels and all their known Successor Chapters suffer from the Red Thirst because they share the same genetic mutation - it would be entirely unfluffy to make a Blood Angels Successor Chapter and not have them follow the Red Thirst special rules. The Dark Angels, on the other hand, use the Intractable rule to reflect their unique mindset; their stubbornness is a result of their psychological profile and training, and not necessarily passed on to their Successor Chapters - making a Dark Angels Successor Chapter that does not follow the Intractable rule would not be unfluffy in my opinion, but neither would a Successor Chapter which does follow the special Dark Angels rules.Originally Posted by distortiondave
Could a Successor Chapter be given Traits? Most definitely. But remember that an army can't use Traits, which are listed in the general Space Marine Codex, and at the same time also use special rules listed in a specific Chapter Codex; you can't mix Codices but must stick to one only: either Traits or Special Rules, never both.I believe it is indeed most common for one or more Marines of an existing Chapter of the same gene-seed to become the leaders and teachers of a newly-fledged Chapter, and without a doubt the doctrines and ideas implanted in the Chapter by its founding Grand Master will continue to shape it in the future - if the Chapter was created for a specific purpose, such as guarding a particular area of space against xenos or heretics, the Commander will likely be chosen for his knowledge and experience in this particular regard and pass his skills on to the Chapter, and if he has a specific preference, say for fast attack, then it is likely the Chapter will also continue to favour this method of combat.Originally Posted by Trappy
"Girls are nice and cuddly on the outside, and freaky on the inside." ~ Lost Nemesis.
BA, RG & SW would be different as they have a genetic flaw in their geneseeds. This would be passed on to their Successors.
Edit - Beaten by Grephaun.