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Reading the new Eldar codex, there's something bothering me. The Eldar Gods, and mortals associated with those gods such as Eldanesh, are referred to as myths, apparently even by the Eldar. Yet we know they are real to an extent, Khaine is definitely real for example.
How much of their old lore is myth, and how much is fact? On that note, "where" did the Gods exist, were they in the warp? I assume Khaine was at least, seeing he had a scrap with Slaanesh, but if they were all in the warp pre-fall, how could they coexist with the Chaos Gods? Maybe Slaanesh was the only one to specifically go after them or something, but I dunno it all seems a bit vague to me, maybe that's intentional.
So yeah, pretty much just thinking aloud here, so I'll just ask; what's the deal with the Eldar Gods? They are referred to as mythical, unlike other deific figures in 40k, but they seem real to an extent, where can we draw a line?
We cannot draw a line between gods who are real and unreal in this world or in the next. I sugest you read Liber Chaotica, as it has some theories on the matter of it. Can't remember where though as I have the compleate one, so I don't differenciate. PM me if you need a better refference (and can get the book).
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Mythological figures in our own culture are often real.. We just don't know enough about them to be able to quantify their stories as fact.
EDIT: To answer some of the question.. the eldar gods were, in the most common fluff paradigm at least (Xenology differs, for example.) warp entities created by the Eldar (in a controlled way though, not like the chaos gods.) Why they weren't eaten I don't know.. but they seem to have been protected somehow.
Slannesh, on the other hand, owns every single eldar soul, because they created it, it's the embodiment of their emotions. Perhaps this feeding right extended to the eldar gods too.
Last edited by The_Giant_Mantis; November 14th, 2006 at 02:20.
Aren't the Eldar Gods based on Norse and Greek myth (i know this has nothing to do with the topic) Im pretty sure Vaul is a blatant copy of the Norse god of forge. My friend explained the Eldar fluff to me from the old codex at least seeing as hes really into eldar but im not sure truthfully how eldar regard their own gods, but supposedly they walked with humans until Isha predicted that Khaine would be killed by the Eldar someday so Khaine went insane (yes it rhymed) and slaughtered many eldars, thus getting all the gods banned from the material world by Eldanesh. Then theres the sword thing with Vaul who makes one crappy sword when they fight the Necrons. I think thast right, but im sorry i dont really know how to answer your question.
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The eldar gods are nothing but myth even to most eldar. Only the harlequins know the truth to such myths as they are the only eldar with conntact to the last remaning (at least whole) eldar god. It is said that the eldar gods were destroyed in the war in heaven. Now the real vegness begins when they are talking about the war. Are they refering to the war of kaine against the eldar, the war against the C'tan, or the war agains Slaanesh? I believe that the fluff leads us to believe that the eldar gods being warp entities themselves were destroyed against she who thirsts:cry: .
So let me try and answer the question more directly. Most eldar do believe the gods are myth. The harlequins know the truth about the myths. Eldar gods ARE warp entities. hope that helped.:yes:
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As far as I understood it, the Eldar gods were originally created as part of the Eldar design by the Old Ones, as living weapons against the C'tan. Once the Old Ones were destroyed/went out of the picture however, they took on more of a life of their own, hence the conflicts that have been written about in the mythology.
And the majority of the Eldar gods were eaten by Slaanesh in its first breath. That, and a lot of the Eldar that sustained their presence in the Warp were killed too.
Yep, all eldar gods bar 2 were killed by Slaanesh.
The gods did co-exist in the normal realm with the eldar but then Asurya seperated them after they betrayed Khaine. I don't know what Asurya did to them or where he caged them in. Probabnly some kind of webway thing or even a whole new dimension.
Eldar Mythology IS Norse Mythology. Rhana Dandra is an exact copy of Ragnarok except it was giants instead of chaos. In Norse Mythology all of the Norse gods (Eldar phoenix lords) were killed during the ragnarok. Fuegan is IDENTICAL to Heimdall.
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The Eldar Parentheon are at the same time: entirely fictional metaphors and completely real. It has been clearly written that way and as Mon-keigh, why should we expect to understand
Bits: Place of existance: they undoubtedly manifest themselves on the matial plane - Khaine trapping and killing Eldar, but why do you assume they existed on one or the other, Eldar themselves have a strong presenc within the warp whilst in the real world, and then there is the webway...
Fight between Slanesh and Khaine - slaneshs birth pains caused the eye of terror, a link between warp and the real world, there is no reason why he could not travel between the two, since the fragments of Khaine came to rest on the craftworlds in the material plane, it would seem highly likely that this fight took place, at least the end of it, here. More yet, clearly the sacrifice of billions of powerful souls - the fall of teh Eldar, would have given Slanesh sufficient power to move between planes
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