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    Beluosus Skitarii Regiments (long)

    This is the fluff behind my main army. Though they are the army which most interests me and which I have done the most research into I have almost no models for them as I don’t have a huge amount of disposable income. I wanted everyone’s advice before I really start working on a large force of these guys, because they will likely be the only army I can collect for years if I really go for it. The fluff starts with a short story, then gets into real background.


    Hold The Line

    Sargent Tasolvi Sighted down the barrel of his bolt pistol and spat a second well placed round into one of the charging beasts. After that reflexes took over as the orkish hordes hit into his section of the line. Slash, parry, counter thrust, put another bolt into that ones head, it was vicious and fast. The combat was harsh, hideous, and glorious, just like all the others. Twenty orks had hit the line alive, seven escaped back over the parapet.
    They had five minutes to reload and rest before the next wave would hit them. He looked for more rounds for his bolt pistol. He was down to his last clip, and that was at five rounds spent. Tasolvi examined the wounded, Borechev, Alizkander, and Karl were gone. Joseph required the Emperor’s Grace, a crude sword was embedded in his head. The last attack had taken more of his command than the other five they had suffered that day combine. He doubted that they would survive the next group.
    Unexpectedly the whistle which signaled a fresh assault shrilled behind them. He shook off fatigue and turned to face the next squad of deadly orkish freaks. Next to him he heard Zarhov muttering a prayer commending the souls of those about to die to the Emperor. As the range closed and the guard began to open fire the rattle of an approaching tank came to Sargent Tasolvi’s ears.
    Glancing around he was surprised to see seven or eight chimera transports pull up behind his position to disgorge dozens of heavily armed storm troopers wearing rust red uniforms. They moved into position swiftly and efficiently firing on the move with powerful Hell Guns blasting holes into the attacking “formations”.
    Like many guardsmen Tasolvi had a vitriolic dislike of the ‘toy solders’ with whom he so often had to serve, and he sneered at the first of them as they reached the parapets to take cover. He half expected them to leap out and counter charge the approaching orks but what actually happened he in no wise was prepared for. As the surviving enemies reached the newly reenforced line seemingly innocuous bits of technology blazed to life on each of the new combatants.
    Previously hidden cybernetic weapons sprang forth to rend and tear at their orkish assailants. Tasolvi himself was sprayed with orkish blood as a vibrio blade sprang out of the arm of the solder next to him and into his opponents chest. He shot an ork in the face after one of the Storm Troopers knocked it to the ground. Vlastov was nearly beheaded by a crude axe when he got spun around in a close duel with one of the brutes, but a storm trooper leaped in to tackle it away. Later these flashes would be all he could remember of a fight which lasted only a few seconds.
    When the brutal business was over Sargent Tasolvi turned to the leader of the Storm trooper squad which had helped defend his position and asked a simple question. “What ARE you?”
    The Reply was equally simple “Skitarii.”



    The world of Beluosus

    Skitarii are the solders of the Adeptus Mechanicus, cybernetically enhanced and equipped with some of the best weapons imperial technology can produce. Normally they are only fielded in defense of the Mechanicus Forge Worlds, to support a Ligeio of Titans, or as part of an Exploritor Fleet however the Skitarii of Beluosus are far from ‘normal’.

    First re-discovered in M39 Beluosus has been home to colonies of some 12 distinct races over the centuries. These have included the Eldar, Hrud, K’nib, and Necrontir. None of these colonies now survives, though each in turn has left traces of their presence scattered across the surface. Because of the abundance of ancient alien technology several Adeptus Mechanicus Explorator missions were sent to the world but only a few returned.

    The ones which came back told of a picturesque world with conditions even more varied than present day earth. Two hive cities on opposite sides of the planet had once been filled with human settlers though now both stood empty and desolate the inhabitants vanished for reasons unknown. One mission penetrated deep into the hives and returned to tell of a great hall at the hives core where the holy of holy’s, a STC slumbered. However dire warnings were also given, the planet kept its secrets with dark guardians of its own. Strange alien beasts stalked anyone who set foot on the surface, and mechanical guardians of a lost age fought those who would enter the hives.

    Not content with these sporadic successes the Arch Fabricator decided to make a greater effort to win the hidden treasures. Calling on representatives form every forge world in the galaxy he dispatched a massive Explorator fleet such as had not been seen since before the Age of Apostasy. The Enormous army descended on Beluosus and invaded the hives with blazing speed. They took control of the upper levels swiftly and slowly fought their way down into the depths. The dread guardians they had been warned about proved very real, robot warriors left behind by the former inhabitants. It took years to root them out and hundred of tech adepts and Skitarii gave their lives for every level gained. In the deeps they found the STC’s as reported however both lay in ruins the fabulous knowledge they had contained now beyond recovery.

    However the sacrifice of those who had fought to reach the core of the hive was not in vain. Though the STC units were shattered husks nearby were archives of first generation printout containing many arcane technical secrets. The hordes of precious data were the greatest found in almost a thousand years. Much of the archives were damaged but even this did not deter the zealous tech priests who have spent centuries cataloging and reconstructing every last fragment.

    With the hive cities now firmly in Imperial hands groups of explorers began to comb the rest of the planet for the remains of human settlements. Again many vanished claimed by the native life forms, booby traps, or things which were not meant as traps but worked out that way. With the numbers of Skitarii and Tech Adepts available dwindling more expendable outsiders was called in to undertake the most dangerous missions. Soon there were more imperial citizens than Mechanicus personal. After that things snowballed with more and more people entering the hives each year while only the same number left. As the population approached a certain critical level the Fabricator General moved to have it declared a forge world.

    In the intricate dance that is the politics of the Senetorum Imperialis few things ever are resolved without ether a great deal of compromise and debate or a huge set of screw ups and minor disasters. The results of this particular machination would be the later. Immediate protests were logged by both the Ecclesiarch and the Lord Commander Militant of the Imperial Guard. Further protests were forthcoming From The Paternoval Envoy, Inquisitorial Representative, Provost Marshal of the Adeptus Arbites, and the Master of the Adeptus Astra Telepathica. Badgered by seven different opinions and plans as to how the planet should be categorized and dealt with The Master of the Administratum took himself into seclusion. With his army of scribes he poured over the records of planetary calcifications looking for a precedent. Finally one was located in the form of the world of Primus Maximus. Rather than give the world one designation it would be given three!

    So it came to pass that Beluosus was classified as a Forge world, Hive world and Death world Simultaneously.

    Naturally there was some friction between the different calcifications. Hive worlds and forge worlds are required to make massive shipments of manufactured goods, but death worlds are not. Both Hive worlds And Death Worlds are required to raise troops for the Imperial Guard but Forge Worlds are exempt. Death worlds and Forge worlds are treated with under “trade pacts” however Hive worlds are assessed more traditional tithes. Debate raged in the Senetorum Imperialis for weeks over how to reconcile these conflicts until at last a compromise was hammered out.

    The planet would interact with the rest of the Imperium under a trade pact. Food, raw material, and personnel would be imported from outside. Meanwhile equivalent amounts of manufactured goods would be exported. The planet would be required to raise Imperial Guard Regiments, equipped and trained to the Highest standards. These Regiments would constitute a portion of the planets exports, so as to keep a balance between food and personnel imported and equal biomass leaving. Finally the planet would have a hereditary governor, however his appointment would require initiation into the Mysteries of the Mechanicus and a dual coronation by Cardinal and High Adept. None of the high lords came away happy, but all were satisfied with the results.

    The first Governor was an anointed Tech Adept who little relished the title or the Strange procedures of the Coronation. However among the many traditions he started one has proven most use full from the Adeptus Mechanicus view. With the deadline for raising the first Tithe of guardsmen falling fast he made a brilliant executive decision. He called up every Tech Priest and Skitarii solder which could be striped from other duties and Formed them into the first of Beluosus Skitarii Regiment. Though a desperation measure at the time it set a standard which has worked well. These Regiment often serve the Omnisiha first and the Guard second, though there is usually no conflict. They have brought back many valuable techno relics, and even at one point rescued a titan from enemy hands.

    Since then the demands of the trade pact have grown but the deal is still kept. One Million Skitarii troopers are sent each year in payment for the food everyone eats. They go gladly, honored to serve the Omnissiah and slay the foes of the Imperium.



    Now that the fluff is out of the way this is how they would be represented on the table top.

    Traits

    Restricted Troops: Tech Priest engine seers.
    Alternate Organization: Grenadiers
    Special Equipment: Carapace Armor
    Special Equipment: Bionics
    Skills And Drills: Hardened Fighters

    Obviously I would be running with several full squads of Storm Troopers as my troops choices While Engine Seers filled in the Elites slots. Mostly I would just slip into position with chimeras and then counter assault. Or against shooting armies run with lots of Sentinels as a hard hitting first wave then use the rest of the army to push into the breach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Ghost View Post
    This is the fluff behind my main army. Though they are the army which most interests me and which I have done the most research into I have almost no models for them as I don’t have a huge amount of disposable income. I wanted everyone’s advice before I really start working on a large force of these guys, because they will likely be the only army I can collect for years if I really go for it. The fluff starts with a short story, then gets into real background.
    OK skitari regiment would be rather uniquie but clearly will be rather costly to make

    spelling and grammar on next bit:
    ........suffered that day combine.
    Should be "combined"
    ......he in no wise was prepared for.
    "wise" should be "ways"
    otherwise, a bit averse to the appearance of body weaponry etc but good
    The world of Beluosus

    Skitarii are the solders of the Adeptus Mechanicus, cybernetically enhanced and equipped with some of the best weapons imperial technology can produce. Normally they are only fielded in defense of the Mechanicus Forge Worlds or to support a Ligeio of Titans however the Skitarii of Beluosus are far from ‘normal’.
    Skitarri are also deployed in support of AM Explorator missions
    First re-discovered in M39 Beluosus has been home to colonies of some 12 distinct races, including the Eldar, Hrud, K’nib, and Necrontir. None of these colonies now survives, though all have left traces of their presence scattered across the surface. Because of the abundance of ancient alien technology several Adeptus Mechanicus Explorator missions have been sent to the world but only a few have returned.
    dont like the way you are experessing this, it sounds like all the races lived there in peacefull harmony, which is never going to happen, far more likely that one race lived there, then later another then later another, which would mean you need to express it differently
    The ones which came back told of a picturesque world with conditions even more varied than present day earth. Two hive cities on opposite sides of the planet had once been filled with human settlers though now both stood empty and desolate the inhabitants vanished for reasons unknown. Some even spoke of a great hall in the depths of the hives where the holy of holy’s, a STC slumbered. However dire warnings were also given, the planet kept its secrets with dark guardians of its own. Strange alien beasts stalked anyone who set foot on the surface, and mechanical guardians of a lost age fought those who would enter the hives.

    Not content with the sporadic successes the Arch Fabricator decided to make a greater effort to win the hidden treasures. Calling on representatives form every forge world in the galaxy he dispatched a massive Explorator fleet such as had not been seen since before the Age of Apostasy. The Enormous army descended on Beluosus and invaded the hives with blazing speed. They took control of the upper levels swiftly and slowly fought their way down into the depths. The dread guardians they had been warned about proved very real, robot warriors left behind by the former inhabitants. It took years to root them out and hundred of tech adepts and Skitarii gave their lives for every level gained. In the deeps they found the STC’s as reported however both lay in ruins the fabulous knowledge they had contained now beyond recovery.
    a little iffy but OK I will live it, however how did they know an STC was there? also are we talkign a thing or the plans/manufacture instructions?
    However the sacrifice of those who had fought to reach the core of the hive was not in vain. Though the STC units were shattered husks nearby were archives of first generation printout containing many arcane technical secrets. The hordes of precious data were the greatest found in almost a thousand years. Much of the archives were damaged but even this did not deter the zealous tech priests who have spent centuries cataloging and reconstructing every last fragment.

    With the hive cities now firmly in Imperial hands groups of explorers began to comb the rest of the planet for the remains of human settlements. Again many vanished claimed by the native life forms, booby traps, or things which were not meant as traps but worked out that way. With the numbers of Skitarii and Tech Adepts available dwindling outside talent was called in to undertake the more dangerous missions. Soon there were more outside contractors than Mechanicus personal.
    Contractors?????? the only people that know anything about machines are the AM, there is no outside contract help
    After that things snowballed with more and more people entering the hives each year while only the same number left. As the population approached a certain critical level the Fabricator General moved to have it declared a forge world.

    In the intricate dance that is the politics of the Senetorum Imperialis few things ever are resolved without ether a great deal of compromise and debate or a huge set of screw ups and minor disasters. The results of this particular machination would be the later. Immediate protests were logged by both the Ecclesiarch and the Lord Commander Militant of the Imperial Guard. Further protests were forthcoming From The Paternoval Envoy, Inquisitorial Representative, Provost Marshal of the Adeptus Arbites, and the Master of the Adeptus Astra Telepathica. Badgered by seven different opinions and plans as to how the planet should be categorized and dealt with The Master of the Administratum took himself into seclusion. With his army of scribes he poured over the records of planetary calcifications looking for a precedent. Finally one was located in the form of the world of Primus Maximus. Rather than give the world one designation it would be given three!
    Dont like all of this, the AM are more than capable of taking over a planet, controlling who has access or may land on it, some of the opposition is also meaningless, Adeptus Arbities and Psychers do not own planets
    So it came to pass that Beluosus was classified as a Forge world, Hive world and Death world Simultaneously.
    Not likely
    Naturally there was some friction between the different calcifications. Hive worlds and forge worlds are required to make massive shipments of manufactured goods, but death worlds are not. Both Hive worlds And Death Worlds are required to raise troops for the Imperial Guard but Forge Worlds are exempt. Death worlds and Forge worlds are treated with under “trade pacts” however Hive worlds are assessed more traditional tithes. Debate raged in the Senetorum Imperialis for weeks over how to reconcile these conflicts until at last a compromise was hammered out.

    The planet would interact with the rest of the Imperium under a trade pact. Food, raw material, and personnel would be imported from outside. Meanwhile equivalent amounts of manufactured goods would be exported. The planet would be required to raise Imperial Guard Regiment, equipped and trained to the Highest standards. These Regiment would constitute a portion of the planets exports, so as to keep a balance between food and personnel imported and equal biomass leaving. Finally the planet would have a hereditary governor, however his appointment would require initiation into the Mysteries of the Mechanicus and a dual coronation by Cardinal and High Adept. None of the high lords came away happy, but all were satisfied with the results.

    The first Governor was an anointed Tech Adept who little relished the title or the Strange procedures of the Coronation. However among the many traditions he started one has proven most use full from the Adeptus Mechanicus view. With the deadline for raising the first Tithe of guardsmen falling fast he made a brilliant executive decision. He called up every Tech Priest and Skitarii solder which could be striped from other duties and Formed them into the first of Beluosus Skitarii Regiment. Though a desperation measure at the time it set a standard which has worked well. These Regiment often serve the Omnisiha first and the Guard second, though there is usually no conflict. They have brought back many valuable techno relics, and even at one point rescued a titan from enemy hands.

    Since then the demands of the trade pact have grown but the deal is still kept. One Million Skitarii troopers are sent each year in payment for the food everyone eats. They go gladly, honored to serve the Omnisiha and slay the foes of the Imperium.
    No sorry but realy dont like all that, I think you are undereestimating the power of the Adeptus Mechanicus

    Now that the fluff is out of the way this is how they would be represented on the table top.

    Traits

    Restricted Troops: Tech Priest engine seers.
    Alternate Organization: Grenadiers
    Special Equipment: Carapace Armor
    Special Equipment: Bionics
    Skills And Drills: Hardened Fighters

    Obviously I would be running with several full squads of Storm Troopers as my troops choices While Engine Seers filled in the Elites slots. Mostly I would just slip into position with chimeras and then counter assault. Or against shooting armies run with lots of Sentinels as a hard hitting first wave then use the rest of the army to push into the breach.
    I would have thought a high proportion of tanks of varrious patterns (probably requiring forgeworld shopping) would be most appropriate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheredanine View Post
    don’t like the way you are expressing this, it sounds like all the races lived there in peaceful harmony, which is never going to happen, far more likely that one race lived there, then later another then later another, which would mean you need to express it differently.
    I guess I do need to express it differently. The intended implication was that there had been a succession of alien colonies by various galactically significant races. That will need work...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheredanine View Post
    A little iffy but OK I will live it, however how did they know an STC was there? also are we talking a thing or the plans/manufacture instructions?
    Standard Template Construct: The Holy Grail of the Adeptus Mechanicus, if it works. Inside are complete instructions on every technical advance ever made in the history of humanity. From Fire to Fighter Jets and beyond. The printouts which it can make of the instructions it contains is the holiest relic that an Explorator can find, short of a functional machine. Like the real holy grail a working one has never been located.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheredanine View Post
    I would have thought a high proportion of tanks of various patterns (probably requiring forge world shopping) would be most appropriate
    That’s the more traditional approach to Skitarii but I wanted to express another side to the force. In the official fluff Skitarii are shown powerful warriors, somewhere between a Guardsman and a Space Marine. This gives an accurate reflection of that battlefield prowess. They are shown as dangerous, almost superhuman, and that is right where the official fluff puts them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Omnissiah View Post
    ...it's Omnissiah...not Omnisiha.

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    I think you missunderstand what STC is,

    Rhinos, razorbacks landraider5s etc are all STC vehicles,

    In out terms, Standard Template is a methodology, it derives from a species expanding and exploring in all directions at different rates, in such circumstances the resources on one planet and the resources of those that descover it are different from the next.

    Rather than designing new vehicles, tools, buildings and machinery each time, requiring a high degree of sophisitcation, Standard templates were created. These are designs for tools, machinery, vehicle buildings etc which are modular and can be build using varrious materials, on one planet they may be built from comacted vegetable matter, on another metal refined from ore, on a third long chain hydrocarbons etc They are also modular in that there are standard for components such as wheels, tracks, joints etc, allowign for interchange, finally they are modular in that they can be powered by different things, on one planet a vehicle may be powered by a carbon fuel source engine (petrol, diesel, LPG.. whatever) on another planet the very same vehicle or machine may be powered by a fusion engine, on a third it could use solar power.

    Such vehicles, machinery etc are standard template constructs, built from STC designs.

    Currently the imperium is a) more technically backwards than it was during the creation of STC technology and b) stagnant - i.e. it is not expanding its understanding of such technology.

    The first point means that the AM do not understand their machines, they have some of the designs and manuals for instruction and/or repair, and they follow them religiously, but they dont understand them in terms of why or how, this leads to the second point as their ability to inovate and mend is based on manuals and isntructions and guessing what to do to mend or improve something, this guessing is often flawed because they treat the technology as a religion (even the most senior tech magus) rather than actually understanding it.

    Therefore to them STC designs and manuals are the holy of holies, undescovered ones means tehy can follow new rituals (creating new things and new varriants and mending old). Finding new STCs (The objects), whilst the AM will wet themselves, they generally dont help much, a lot of components will be common to stuff they already have (because of the modular build approach) but one new bolt etc and they wont know how to create it, they may mange, but it would be fluke, not through understanding, they are as likely to ctreat the new bolt out of polystyrene as steel.

    Add to that the varrious factions within AM which mirror those within other organisations of the Imperium, notably the inquisition and you have radicals who will so god knows what, creating hybrids of STC and alien tech, and pruitans who believe Xenotech to be heresey and inoovation with STC to be the same

    Finally, STC designs - these are descovered, bit there is no central repository, the practical nature of the expansion which created the STC system meant that different areas of space developed their own STC or varriants thereof, evidence of this can be found with IA1 and the details of the varriants of the Leman Russ

    One last thing (sorry I know I siad finally) - even forgeworlds can not follow STC designs without authority from the AM on Mars, again this is well documented in IA1
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    Thats not how I understand the situation.
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    The first bit matches what I said above, which is the standard meaning of STC, the second bit, Abnets "contructor" seems to match wht you wrote, however the constructor does not fit with any fluff outside Abnets books and indeed the presence of anything that can spew out STC plans and designs directly contradicts existing fluff, notbaly in IA 1 which is riddled with references of different forgeworlds trying with all their might to find and implement even slight varriants of STC plans, should anyone have a "Constructor" that entire theme would be mute

    Also you need to consider your sources carefully, Wikpedia is a user based content site, Ie someone wrote that and entered it, they are not paid for it, they do it out of love, same as here, difference being this is a dedicated hobby site, everyone on it has some knowledge or opinion in some way, if I was talking nonesense, someone would have shot me down in flames by now, this is not true of Wikpedia, I could write in and say STC is a big purple thing with 5 legs and a perchant for rum and raisin icecream, ok a bit OTT but you see what I mean?

    I woudl strongly recomend getting hold of a copy of IA! and reading the chapters on Adeptus Mechanicus and then all the different tanks which detail the forgeworld variants of the STCs, how they got them, who holds the plan and what forgeworlds have been licenece to manufacture them and the varriantions which that produces

    (hope that sounded helpfull, bit worried it sounds a bit hostile, not meant that way
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    THANK YOU!

    I see where we are at loggerheads now!

    The devices they found were STC systems, the ones which allegedly stored all the data on how to build any kind of Standard Template device. Both were shards and rust when the mechanicus located them.

    However there was First Generation Printout* Left in archival vaults near the ruins of the STCs themselves. This is what the devices "spewed out" so to speak. This also is how the Mechanicus original FIND those "Minor Variations" of STC devices which they work so very hard to implement.


    I am glad thats cleared up. Again thank you for your time and asistance, if you would be willing to offer any more advice I would be greatfull.


    *(Hard copy schematics/technical data which an STC uses to relay its contents to remote locations before advanced communication systems are set up.)
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    It's an interesting idea, although I'm not sure the AM would give up their sovereignty like that.

    On the current discussion of the STCs, I would tone it down a lot. Any STC discoveries are trumpeted from the rooftops and their makers celebrated. Someone who discovered an STC printout that detailed a different way to forge metal to make sharper knives was canonised by the AM. Discovering a whole library of printouts would lead to a galaxy-wide AM festival, in all likelihood.

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