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Here are some basic ideas i have been toying with as a background for my space marine chapter. feel free to give your input.
Some basic background on the army: Painted in a Liche Purple base, green secondary color and bronze highlights. No army markings, only the roman numeral IX. All models built with Beaky or older style space marine heads (i'm not rich, i cant afford to outfit them all with hersey strap armor, studded shoulders and MK7 Greaves, but i would if i could afford it ). I use older style models when i can find them (have a nice unit of old jetbike models, some old style whirlwinds and other vehicles, venerable dreadnaught etc, etc..). I try to embellish every model as much as i can, so they all look venerated.
I wasnt sure how the origional legions were organized, so i just rationalized that 10,000 dudes would be broken into 10 regiments (chapters now days) and further broken into companys from there. If there is an established breakdown, let me know, this is all fanasty so its easy to adapt to.
Basic points about the chapter
- were a fast attack company (~ 100 guys) from the original emperors children legion
- remained loyal during the hersery, probably fighting along side other groups of the traitor legions that remained loyal.
- ashamed of their battle brothers actions, they disappeared shortly after the hersery and took all references to their parent legion off their armor, leaving only their company number IX.
- currently based out of imperial space, but monitor imperial communication transmission to find battles worthy of them, espically against the forces of chaos.
- Its more than likely that the inquisition and gray knights know of their existence and location, but choose not to intervene based on the companys unwavering devotion to the emperor.
I can tell you right now that you're going to get a mixed bag of reactions to this idea. I've been playing Loyalist EC for over five years now and it never fails that when the idea comes up there'll be a few people who say "this is a cool idea". Then the fluff nazis kick into gear chanting their mantra that this didn't and couldn't have happened. If you like the idea, then go for it. This is one of those topics like female marines that you're probably not going to get a lot of constructive criticism for as the naysayers generally outyell the more helpful posters.
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It's not a bad idea really. I recently read "Let the Galaxy burn" and while fluffwise all the loyalist marines of the Emperors children, World eaters, Death guard and sons of horus were wiped out it is feasible to have a few survivors banding together after escaping. Maybe you could throw in a few squads of some of the other chapters or mix and match but thats just an idea I like. Hey it's all fiction anyway so I say feel free to do what you like.
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+ you can always say: "these marines where wiped out a hundred years after the heresy because all their brethren joined chaos... so all the games we play are set around M32."
A lot of marines didn't turn traitor but where wiped out anywayz
Just a thought, ultramarine traitors could then also be a possibility, why would only the traitor legions have loyalists? The loyalists should also have defectors
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Well during the heresy the marines looked at their primarch as they would the emperor(slightly less because the emperor was god!:shifty: ) SO IMO I dont think there would be traitor ultramarines during the heresy because they still had their primarch to look up to and believe in. But after the heresy its another story.
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Nice idea, specialy the jetbikes. It would be intersting to see a group of marines with a squad of jetbikes flying around kicking ass. I say go for it and naysayers be damned.
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I hate to say it, but don't come up with some lame convenient backstory as to how this particular company (yes, they were still companies, sometimes called grand companies.. and the EC was about 20,000 marines back then) survived the Heresy.. Just field them as a pre heresy army. If you're fighting in a campaign which has fluff, I guess it might be a problem, but then you can just have them as 'mysterious force X.'
Fluff is a lot more fun if you don't bend it over and sodomize it to try and get it to do what you want, whatever the so called 'free thinkers' might say. No work of literature benefits from writers concocting bizarre, freakish twists and barely possible coincidences to wing an idea.
Sorry, but I'm pissed off at being called a fluff nazi.. I'm not a fluff nazi, I just like to read interesting fluff, not a series of logical hoops being carefully jumped through to justify some outlandish idea.
I actually wrote some pre-heresy fluff back when I was doing a pre-heresy thousand sons army.. It ended with my librarian saccrificing himself to destroy a gate at the battle of prospero and slow down the space wolf advance. Writing pre-heresy fluff could be really fun.. you could write it as some decaying manuscript, or even an oral legend, and have all these epic moments from the distant past without worrying so much about how you're going to validate coincidence X and coincidence Y.
At the end of the day, fluff is supposed to be fun.. It's not some silly logical excercise where you try and justify your army's existence. Just write a cool story.