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Right ive been trying to sort all of my guard out, painting building finishing everything off and i decided to sort the fluff aswell.
SO far the fluff is as follows.
The Solentian empire was a space faring empire of humans that (with the expansion of the Imperium) came under the control of the emperor.
They were allowed to keep their infrastructure accept they were subjected to the Imperium. in several ways:
1) Commisars feature in their best units to make sure they stay loyal and dont lead revolts.
2) planetary governors are now appointed by the high lords of terra to oversee administration.
3) equipment has been standardised with the imperial guard who regularly take the empires best regiments on crusade.
The empire controlled 3-4 systems before they were conquered and mostly the cultures are the same.
The armies i have are all geared to wards historical stuff, the elite regiments are based on the Russian Napoleonics, the main force loosely based on the early Byzantine forces and the Airforce is loosely based on the RAF
Now there are several things id like to expand on from the above,
1) I play against guard and slaaneshi marines as my main opponents, id like a way of incorporating these enemies into the fluff
2) There is a character that i have written some of my stories about before who is part of one of the regiments. I have a steel legion style lieutenant painted up who represents him in battle. I'd like help with some ideas about the actions he has been in.
3) I want there to be several rebellions in the history of the Empire against the Imperium, these will range from one big one to a few small ones that are just a planet or system, however i need to work out exactly how many systems are a realistic area.
Thats about all for now could anybody help me sort this out a bit further?
Sounds very cool and well thought through!
1) Perhaps there are elements within the Imperium who would rather see the Solentian Empire destroyed than inducted into the Imperium? Maybe the Solentians have a dark past where they flirted with the forces of Chaos. Slaanesh perhaps?
2) Do you have a link to any of these stories? It might help the ideas start rolling.
3) I would say that at least a few systems could have taken part in this rebellion. Maybe these rebellions relate to the elements of the Imperium who want the Empire destroyed.
You could even take it further and say that there is a secret reason why elements of the Imperium DON'T want to destroy the Solentian Empire. Maybe they hold some archane relics or secrets. (Think about it... The autarch of Krieg led a single rebellion on one planet and Krieg was nuked for 500 years! There must be some reason why the Solentians are being spared such retribution.)
Just a few thought...
Well, I'm not too experienced, but I'll put it my two cents. First, I think it's kind of strange that their planetary governors are hand-picked by the High Lords of Terra. There are millions of Imperium worlds. The High Lords aren't going to care about some random, relativly insignificant system. Second, your army doesn't really seem to have that much of a hook. You said they have their own unique infrastructure, but I'm not really seeing that from your description. Also, having one, large rebellion or multiple small rebellions doesn't seem to be something the Imperium would let slide. At the least they would remove the autonomy the system has, and at worst would reduce its planets to wastelands. The only way the Imperium would let an empire like yours survive is if it proved itself remarkably loyal and not a potential threat. Hope I helped a bit.
EDIT: Wow, BobaHat, your ideas would probably void all of my concerns. Nice job.
Last edited by PineappleDisciple; April 3rd, 2007 at 23:05.
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So your society has the same culture they did pre-assimilation? That wouldn't stand well with, say, the Ecclesiarchy which demands Emperor-worship or the Omnissiah-worshipping Adeptus Mechanicus. Maybe there is a strong faction of nationalists (systemists?) who didn't like submitting to the Imperium even though the alternative would have been destruction. That would explain both some minor riots/revolts plus a high prevalence of Commissars keeping an eye on troops who might secretly sympathize.
I could imagine there being four main philosophies: the Imperialists who are glad the Imperium came (for protection, technology, getting rid of the old ruling class, etc.), the Rebels who want their autonomy, the pragmatists who support the Imperium 'for the moment', and the hedonists who try to have a good time and not think about their problems...naturally providing Slannesh-fodder.
Commissar-led forces hunt down Rebels who enjoy major support.
Rebels reach out to Chaos Marines as potential allies-- it backfires and a three-way war breaks out.
Hedonist faction becomes a threat with exposure to Slaaneshi teachings.
New Hedonist activity garners a lot of pro-Imperial sympathy and loyalty.
Rebels lose support and the Imperium cracks down...major rebellion over.
Brushfires between faction remnants break out continually (Guard vs Guard action) and Emperor's Children continually try to exploit their new foothold outside the Cadian gate.
It's hard to help you write out a hero with no information on him. Do you want to field him with any trademark gear? Does he have a name?
"My tanks have names, my men have numbers." -Col. Edmund Grahvess, 23rd Kronecker Prison Guard
Wow thanks for the help guys rep all round!
righty il go through each post
1) could be a good plot hook for a planetary family in the ruling elite goes on with the hedonist idea from intrepid
2)Ah well i would but they are on paper unfortunately but if i gettime il write up some of the stuff frantically!
3) I love the secret agenda idea leaves an opening for some inquisition nastiness hmmm, id also forgotten that i play against dark angels aswell makes this even more interesting.
handpicked by the high lords does seem a little strong i must admit. perhaps the defacto "ruler" of the empires area was picked by the high lords at the time of the original take over since then the ruling classes have convinced a populous that it is still happening.
As for the hook of the armies well for me its all in the organisation and the uniform, (im a miltary historian/archaeologist) they hook is really that i have halftracks...
Id have to disagree about letting the small rebellions slide in such a vast empire a minor rebellion in one city isnt going to draw the might of the imperium perhaps just the local arbites!
As for the loyalty im thinking the loyalty is shown by the ruling classes the peasants dont really have a say.
I do have some sisters and i was thinking of starting a convents worth, id thought about that on cultural grounds. And well not to be too complicated but cultural quirks can be very powerful indeed and not necesarily religious. the supplanting of the Emperor over the worship of this empire (there was an emperor cult anyway lol) could be reason for some to start complaing i think.
Religious persecution is always a fun topic.
Im liking the idea of Nationalists.
Hedonist slaanesh link i do like indeed, there is a campaign we are running albeit very slowly it started as an all guard affair however, the fluff is that one faction is turning to chaos (the guy with the slaaneshi army) ove rthe campaign this becomes more obvious with the units he can field upgrades he can take etc, the other faction knows this and is trying to destroy this whilst mine has got caught up trying to cvarve out another little bit of empire they then get provoked, taken over by a political faction and try to rebel from the imperium.
As for the hero he was originally leutnant Rodan now he has been promoted to Captain Karl Rodan commander of the fifth(black company) of the the 1st Battalion third solentian rifles.
His background is that he went to armageddon with part of the regiment (which explains whythey are in steel legion uniforms) This was when he was a leutnant; while he was there a rebellion broke out on his home planet, when he arrived home, after the unit was returned to duties in the Solentian empire, he discovered that the rebellion had hurt his planet badly, he then tries to get himself transfered to a PDF unit on the planet (unsuccessfully) mysteriously on his return to the regiment he is given a company command and sent away on another mission, however this time the unit is destroyed when a rebellion breaks out. He manages to make his way back to his planet in the confusion to find it is where the rebellion started.
Thats about as far as ive got with him!
Thanks for all of the great ideas, just have a quick look at my blog or my project thread to see some of my units and their organisation and uniforms etc.
I shall see what i come up with