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I came up with idea last night of making a chapter consisting of marines from traitor chapters that stayed loyal. I know that there is already fluff contradicting this regarding the creaton of the grey knights however i read that only 8 loyal marines were selected as the first grey knights.
My idea is to have each unit in the army originate from a different chapter. For instance my master of sanctity would be a loyalist from the word bearers and my tech marine from the iron warriors and so forth.
I decided on the name the Pain Bearers since they bear the pain of the heresy. The color scheme would be all black except the left arm shoulder pad and helmet which would be in the marines original chapter color scheme. For traits i want to use uphold the honour of the emporer and trust your battle-brothers. for drawbacks i want to use eye to eye and faithful until death to represent the lack of marines.
This is my attempt at making fluff and would like some feedback on this concept more will be added to the fluff in the next posts
Dude this has been done allot, and tons of people are going to slam you for it, but I say "Go for it!". You could get some realy strong conversions going with this. I would love to see these guys running around with a bunch of MK1 land raiders.
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It's not that you would get slammed but it has been done a lot. You'd have to come up with a really plausible excuse as to how they have survived over the millennia and recruited/replenished their numbers. Does the Inquisition know of their existence? Does anyone know of their existence? Are they for real or do they just impersonate the Founding Legions? These are the kinds of questions you'll need to answer when dealing with chapters like this. Good luck.
As the others have said, it's very, very cliched..
In addition to Nite rabbits questions:
How have they lived for 10,000 years? (lost in the warp might be tempting but that's another massive cliche.)
How did they escape execution by their legions and primarchs? It's unlikely they're going to be allowed to just drive off in their own strike cruiser.
The other problem is that most of the legions actually fell because of their own flaws and practices. The thousand sons, for example, used forbidden psychic powers (which is why Magnus the Red went insane at the battle of Prospero,) the Iron Warriors were scarred by too much brutal siege warfare, the World Eaters all had brain surgery which turned them into raging berzerkers in battle. The Word Bearers were religious maniacs, the Emperor's Children were incredibly proud and too loyal to their own command structure. The night lords were recruited from mercenary criminals and lead by a morbid lunatic.
If you're going with this idea seriously, I'd avoid the tempotation to get too heroic and vanilla. Your Word Bearer master of sanctity was likely raised in a harsh, gladiatorial society then after becoming a marine, was given brain surgery to make him more feroicious. He's not going to be a reserved, honourable champion, he's going to be a bloodthirsty, grizzled sociopath who kills on a whim. Your iron warrior techmarine experienced the same brutal attrition warfare which turned the rest of his legion into paranoid, hate-fuelled chaos marines. Even if he didn't fall to chaos, he's not going to be a happy fellow who salutes the Imperial eagle every day.
Part of antiheroes is that they have flaws. If these guys are going to be believable, they need to actually bear the traces of their original legions, and not just be uberkewl 'I escaped corruption because I'm t3h awesome!' ninja-marines.
Also, going mostly black just seems a bit lazy. You've got a golden chance to go mad on the conversions and make really awesome looking preheresy marines. If you need some ideas..
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to the giant mantis , your thinking world eaters not word bearers for the master of sanctity.
In my opinion use the idea just make it so they arent uber, what gear are they going to use? I mean will it be pre-heresy or modern. Maybe these guys are all second generation, as the originals have died since the heresy? Does the Inquisition know of them/think of them? Are they a secret chapter or do they have many ally chapters? These are the questions that need to be answered.
I thought he wrote World Eaters, but somehow, I wrote Word Bearers at the start of my post and went on to describe the World Eaters, wierd.
In that case, he's just going to be really screwed up. I mean, the Word Bearers were utterly devoted to a being who completely rejected their worship. If he stayed loyalist, how did he deal with the crisis of having his faith, the core of everything his chapter stood for, rejected by the very God he sought to venerate?
Maybe he heard the news second hand (off on a campaign) and beleived that his brothers were being subverted from the very beginning. Then the emperor goes on the golden throne and shuts up. The word bearer can't really talk to him or the rest of his word bearer brothers (as they are heretics) and thus stays loyal.
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