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I know there are strict fluffy rules about "deserting" members of Imperial groups -- Space Marines don't go rogue (unless they go over to chaos, natch), etc.
But what about the Adeptus Mechanicus? I'm putting a concept together for a member of my Inquisitor's retinue who is a "gearhead" and good at fixing/"improving" things like weapons (purely fluff. Not fooling with RAW here), and I thought it would enhance this side of him and make him more believable if he were a former AM member/worker/whatever. Would it be possible for an AM person to decide to "go his own way" and join/get drafted into a puritan Inquisitor's retinue? If so, what's the highest rank in the AM where you would imagine seeing this happen?
If this is unlikely, I had a backup idea: There aren't any women in the AM, are there? What about a female "reject" applicant to the AM who found her way into the retinue? Is that possible?
EDIT: What other reasons would someone be "rejected"/ousted from the AM without being executed?
And as Xerxes said, the Imperium doesn't really do secular science.. I think the best you're going to get is some kind of AM heretic punished for stepping outside the religious doctrines of the cult.
Could you not have some people that know all about the Dragon and have rejected the imperial mantra and faith?
Am I barking up totally the wrong tree?
LO RulesOriginally Posted by AnonymousOriginally Posted by Cyric
Oh, yeah. You get heretical Adepts all the time. Basically any Adept who suggests an original idea or an improvement on a piece of technology without working on it for five to six hundred years is a heretic. There's mention of Guard mechanics being trialled by the Adeptus for "machine heresy" after making some basic improvements to their transport vehicles. Generally they're not executed, just given the usual life sentence in a penal colony.
There's plenty of opportunities for a techpriest to go rogue - he finds a piece of alien tech and wants to keep it, he makes unsolicited improvements to the plasma gun, his body rejects the main biomechanical implants. None of these really equate to a sort of 21st-century liberal secular view of science; you'll just end up with a techpriest who is still dogmatic and ritualised, but in a different way. Like how Catholics argue over whether to eat meat or cut their hair short. None of them are arguing "Hey, how about we drop this God thing anyway?" They're just arguing semantics.
So Mechanicus heresy is more likely to be about the wording of the Litany to Awaken the Gun Spirit than about whether a litany is required at all.
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Mr_Wayne: "Some people believe that the World Eaters do not field any ranged weaponry. Those people often die at a distance."
Probably not. With a custom model that has no special rules you can get away with a lot of 'counts as', especially when the model is one as underpowered as a typical henchman.Will there be a WYSIWYG issue?
If you paint his armor the same color as you are everybody else's flak armor then that's good enough for WYSIWYG, armorwise.
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I like the idea also, for the Inquision would LOVE to have someone that good with machine that is more loyal to them than to the AM to handle their logic engine with all the secrets. Those combat engineer in Imperial guard that do all the field upgrade are mostly half trained tech-priect got expel from the academy for their lack of faith in the machine god way. They may not receive the full training as a techpriest but they learned the basics already. With a help of the inquistion to make the AM cough up some textbook materials to help those radicals know enough to improve stuff isnt too hard to do.I'm putting a concept together for a member of my Inquisitor's retinue who is a "gearhead" and good at fixing/"improving" things like weapons (purely fluff. Not fooling with RAW here), and I thought it would enhance this side of him and make him more believable if he were a former AM member/worker/whatever. Would it be possible for an AM person to decide to "go his own way" and join/get drafted into a puritan Inquisitor's retinue? If so, what's the highest rank in the AM where you would imagine seeing this happen?
Actually, I cant believe that the inquistion wont do such things secretly to cut off their dependent to the AM, for the inquistion never trust those AM at all.
I'm thinking more like someone who is relegated to being a "field" techpriest, but not because he's unqualified, rather because he tries too hard to "innovate," and come up with new ideas. Somehow, he'd meet up with my inquisitor (not sure how yet), and he'd become her field "assistant." Basically, I was looking for a unique substitute for a Plasma Cannon servitor for my inquisitor, saw the conversion in the back of the SoB codex (the one with the sentinel legs, for those who have the book), and the idea hit me to make the machine's "handler" an ex-mechanicus guy of some kind.
I also have a few ideas regarding constructs he may have built to "count as" heavy bolter "servitors," too, but I'll save that for later :shifty: