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so far me and my friend have dominated every 500 pt doubles tournament we have come across. we always take the same lists as they are winners. and as the dark gods would have we are entered in another one this week. this is a battle from one of our past tournaments. i still workning on another one.
company command sqd.,bolt gun for officer. melta gun, plasma gun, vox, battle standard
platoon command squad, bolter for officer
Guardmen squad,granade launcher, flamer.
Guards,en squad, flamer, vox
Heavy weapons teams 3 auto cannons.
Leman russ,lascannon, heavybotlers
Ork warboss, power claw, combi rokkit, ammo runt, shoota
Nob, power klaw, slugga
20 man boys squad, rokkit, big shoota
15 man boy squad,big shoota
3 deff copters, rokkit
chaos sorcerer, unsure of war gear,
5 plague marines.
Archon,combat drugs,not sure on weapons,
2 raider transports
two ten man warrior squads mounted inside.
one warior squad, dark lance
one warior squad dark lance
on our side we had one very big rock. they had a building and a forest.
The raiders were in front of the forest on our right side. the warrior squads were in the forest. The defiler was next to the building to our left with the plague marines and sorcerer in front of it.
My friend put all his orks along the left side. deff copters were in the middle. my guard were digging in behind the rock.
C&E(chaos and eldar): the plague marines tried shooting but were just out of range. The sorccer failed his psychic test. the defiler shot and scattered but took out about 3 ork boyz with it. the dark eldar moved forward at full speed. the eldar in the woods just moved around a little.
us: we started by moving the tide of green skins forward. my guards men didn't move. We moved into orders were i told the weapons teams to bring down the raiders. and for the guard they got fire on my target agianst those pesky warriors. in the shooting phase usesing the auto cannons we blew up a raider killing 4 warriors. The deff kopters killed another one. The warriors got out unscathed. the orks ran. mean while the guards men concentrated their fire and killed off four of the warriors in the forest. the heavy bolters on the leman russ killed 2. the battle cannon killed nothing. the las cannon missed.
C&E: the sorcerer started by trying to turn the warboss into a spawn but rolled to low as the power dictates that each player rolls and the highest wins. the plauge maries killed an ork. the delfiler stepped in and took out half of a boys mob. the dark eldar shot at the leman russ with their dark lances but i made my cover saves(they were shooting thru the raider wreckage). the archon who was in one of the raiders climbed free from the wreckage unscathed and lumbered toward us.
Us: the orks moved forward until they were within assualt range. the guard moved forward and took positions within rapid fire range of the warriors in the forest. The deff kopters moved in to take out the archon lord.with the orders phase i did fire on my target on the auto cannons. and did first rank fire secind rank fire on the guard. in the shooting phase the orks unloaded an enormous amount of slugga shells into the plague marines and the sorcerer. the deff kopters failed to injure the archon. the auto cannons killed 3 more of the forest dwellers. whil the guard raised their las rilfes and killed the surviors from the raiders. the leman russ failed to do any damage this turn. The assualt phase was a massacre as the plague marines and the sorcerer got killed. we lost 4 boyz though.
C&E: The dark eldar continued to hide in the woods the cowards. unfourtunatly we got cocky thinking we would kill the archon that turn and moved the deff copters to close. the defiler charged the boyz.in the shooting phase i lost two guardsmen. the leman russ took several hits but was fine. in combat the defiler killed a few boyz. but in return both it's arms were destroyed and was imobilsed, thank you strength ten warboss. the archon killed a deff kopter wounded another won combat and ran down the survivors.
us; the guard moved toward the forest. mean while the auto cannons and the command squads had a surprise for the arhchon. while the guard fired killing only one dark eldar. the command squad fired at the archon doing two wounds. the defilers was stunned in combat. while we lost 2 more boyz.
C&E; the dark eldar stayed put and killed a total of five guardsmen with their splinter rifles. the archon assualted my weapons team and killed them before they had a chance to react. the orks were holding up their end and stunned the defiler again.
Us; the leman trned and fired all guns on the archon but he walked out unharmed do to his involve save. the command squad fired but also failed to do anything.the guard squads could only regroup this turn. the orks failed to do anything to the dreaded defiler. the game ended here do to time restriants. but i feel we would have won if we could go on for one more turn.
The end result was a draw. but me and my firend have played poeple of various skill and have never lost a game using these lists so i'm eager to hear what you think of them.
Last edited by battle_pilgrim; October 9th, 2009 at 21:03.
Just kinda skimmed it but your post needs some major spelling and grammatical work. Even the topic was mis-spelled. I'll check back when it's a bit easier on the eyes.
sorry about that i was knida rushed i will fix it at soon as possible
fixed what i could find but it win't lat me change the title
hey prince... how about you just answer the question instead of nitpicking everything everyone says and does. ive seen more than a few posts where all you do is complain. why respond at all if your the only one interested in what you have to say?
frostfang. how do you expect people to read something if it has spelling msitakes all the time? This forum would not be anywhere as good as it currently is if people did not check what they wrote and made sure it was easy to read.
He's not even being aggressive just expressing his thoughts on the thread, before the real question.he isn;'t the only one. you post expecting C&C you get C&C.nitpicking everything everyone says and does,And you know what everyone else is interested in? i agree that the thread is riddled with grammar and spelling mistakes. It's better now, but it could be improved.why respond at all if your the only one interested in what you have to say
Now that the heat has been cooled, i suggest we get back on topic, instead of trashing others.
battle_pilgrim: from experinece i feel your PCS and CCS need chimeras and i would stick to PCS with melta guns and CCS with melta guns and the standard, with a veteran squad and melta guns with chimera with infantry squads staying back with autocannons. i beleive that sucha lsit would be more competitive than yours.
However, if all youw ant to do is sit back and shoot, then how about taking a veteran squad with snipers and an autocannon?
Thanks Frost, spelling and grammar are actually part of the forum rules so it would be a good idea if he cleaned it up, which it looks like he kind of did.
I don't know where all these mystery threads of me only complaining are so I'll just ignore that.
Both of your lists have problems, mostly a lot of useless wargear and mixed/not most efficient weapons.
Their lists weren't better, the CSM guy wasn't bringing much of value to the fight. If you swapped some guns/upgrades around I think you could be more successful. Some specifics would be dropping the extras on the Russ and running straight HF, getting Autocannons and nothing else in every Platoon Squad, dropping Vox's and finding room for a Chimera. The Ork list should have Nobs in both units and run a cheaper Warboss or better yet a Mek if he can get points. He's also mixing weapons when all Big Shootas is fine.
Feel free to, I'm not gonna panic if someone "insults" my spelling or grammar. The point was the post was almost un-readable and needed to be changed. No apologies will be tossed out on my part.
Unless it has something to do with the game, done with this thread.
Well as for the actual topic of this thread. I agree that the lists could use some different gear. Can' put info down for the guards since I know absolutly nothing about them. The Orks if you wanted to use a warboss with a PK I would just use the AoBR model with a PK and TL shoota, and drop the rokkit (my opinion one shot per game isnt worth the points with such a low BS). Definatly have Nobz in both squads with PK's. A lot of people don't like the Deffkoptas, but I love them specially with the TL Rokkit Launcha's, and how cheap they are. Dunno if I would use the shootas on them though! Well there's my two cents on it anyways. Hope it helped in some way, shape, or form.
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