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Deployment, Dawn of war
Zeratull's Black Legion Force deploy first. Crimson Fists 5th Company fail to sieze.Zeratull's Black Legion Force
[Daemon Prince Zeratull]
[Mark of Slaanesh, Wings, Warptime]
[10 Chaos Marines]
[Plasmagun, Lazcannon, Icon of Chaos Glory, Champion with Powerfist]
[6 Noise Marines]
[Champion with Doomsiren, Powerweapon, Personal Icon, Rhino with combi-flamer]
[7 Plague marines]
[2 plasmaguns, champion with powerfist and combi-plasma, personal icon]
[8 Khorne Bezerkers]
[champion with powerfist, personal icon, rhino]
[7 Lesser daemons]
Total Points = 1500
For Deployment Type
Spearhead - Deploy foot based units and keep rhino squads in reserve. Likewise Unless a lot of vehicles in the opposition army, the obliterators are in reserve.
Dawn of War - Deploy the plague marines well forward and the chaos marines further back (or on an objective if possible), deploy daemon prince to support the plague marines. Rhino squads come on turn 1, obliterators in reserve.
Pitched Battle - Deploy entire army (except lesser daemons).
Against Army types
Mech - Against mech armies generally deploy the obliterators to maximise shooting from turn 1.
Static - Deploy army as close as possible, deepstrike the oblits.
Daemon Prince - Go for other big critters, init 6 and re-roll to hit and wound should help him here, also to wipe out smaller termie squads etc.
Lesser Daemons - Assault support and to help tie up an enemy unit, try to engage units to block LOS. Also, if needed will camp on an objective.Get voting!Crimson Fists 5th Company
power weapon, digital weapons, jump pack
3x combi-melta, heavy flamer, power fist, drop pod
10 Tactical Maries
melta gun, multi-melta, power fist, rhino
10 Tactical Marines
plasma gun, plasma cannon, power sword, rhino
10 Assault Marines
heavy flamer, multi-melta
total points = 1490
The tacticals are for objectives. The vindi will cover the tacs / objectives while the assault squad + captain counter assaults. Land Speeder and attack bike are fast fire power or objective contesters. Scouts outflank and cause trouble or are a speedbump. Sternguard come down first turn, combat squad, and blow up tanks / shred infantry. They then look scary and draw fire.
What are the SM scouts armed with? they have the option of bolters bolt pistols and close combat weapons, snipers or shotguns.
Last edited by kevin vanrooyen; April 25th, 2009 at 22:48.
IG Best Gen 1st overall of 10 DE 4th overall of 6
Eldar 3rd Overall/Best General of 26--2nd Overall/Best General of 7--1st Overall/Best General of 11
I vote for the black legion, they are faster and have more hitting power than the marines imo,and less kps
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Black Legion get my vote.
Reasons: More punch, fewer KPs.
"It takes a vast amount of self control to be this dangerous."
---Ogvai Ogvai Helmshrot, Jarl of Tra, VI Legion Astartes
Black Legion because their individual units counter the SM units very well.
The Oblits counter the Vindicator easily.
The CSM with the Lascannon will stop at least 1 rhino.
The Sternguard are dangerous, but the Noise Marines w/Doom Siren, the Daemon Prince, or the Berzerkers could be used to take them out when that drop pod lands. It's a question of what the Chaos Player holds back and all of these units are mobile, so he has options. Same goes for the assault Marines. Any of the Chaos units listed above can tear them apart in 1 turn.
The Attack bike and the Speeder would be good against an armored force, but Chaos has very little armor. These Marine fast attack units will kill 1 or 2 rhinos but they are poorly suited to destroying the actual Chaos Marines. The oblits will probably down the speeder immediately after the vindicator.
The scouts just have bolters ... cannon fodder.
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Agreeing with the consensus so far. Black Legion have more killing power, and thus, take the win.