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    40K VWMkIV - Battle #3 - Space Wolves versus Black Legion

    Please see this thread on how to participate in these games. I want to stress to everyone that the mission means everything. He who stands the best way to score Victory Points should be the winner. All missions have the Infiltration, Deep Strike, and Victory Points special rules.

    Mission Type -
    Seek and Destroy


    Space Wolves:

    HQ: 273
    Elites: 82
    Troops: 1047
    Fast Attack: 240
    Heavy Support: 208


    Wolf Guard Battle Leader:
    Frost blade; Bolt Pistol; Wolf Tooth

    Wolf Guard Battle Leader:
    Frost blade; Bolt Pistol; Wolf Tooth

    Wolf Guard Battle Leader:
    Frost blade; Bolt Pistol; Wolf Tooth

    Land Speeder Tornado:
    Assault cannon, Heavy bolter

    Land Speeder Tornado:
    Assault cannon, Heavy bolter

    Land Speeder Tornado:
    Assault cannon, Heavy bolter

    5x Long Fangs
    2x Lascannon; 2x Heavy Bolter
    Pack Leader:
    Bolt Pistol; CCW

    4x Wolf Scouts
    Meltabombs; 1x Meltagun

    6x Grey Hunter Marines:
    5x Bolters and CCW; 1x Plasma Gun; True Grit

    9x Blood Claw Marines:
    6x Bolt Pistol and CCW; 1x Meltagun; 2x Bolt Pistol and Power Fist
    Rhino:
    Extra Armour; Smoke Launchers

    9x Blood Claw Marines:
    6x Bolt Pistol and CCW; 1x Meltagun; 2x Bolt Pistol and Power Fist
    Rhino:
    Extra Armour; Smoke Launchers

    9x Blood Claw Marines:
    6x Bolt Pistol and CCW; 1x Meltagun; 2x Bolt Pistol and Power Fist
    Rhino:
    Extra Armour; Smoke Launchers

    9x Blood Claw Marines:
    6x Bolt Pistol and CCW; 1x Meltagun; 2x Bolt Pistol and Power Fist
    Wolf Guard Leader:
    Pair of Lightning Claws; Meltabombs; Wolf Tooth Necklace
    Rhino:
    Extra Armour; Smoke Launchers




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    Black Legion
    Chaos Space Marines

    HQ: 90
    Elites: 596
    Troops: 669
    Fast Attack: 295
    Heavy Support: 199


    Chaos Lieutenant:
    Mark of Nurgle; Infiltrate; Kai Gun

    8x Khornate Berserkers:
    7x Chainaxes & Bolt Pistols
    Aspiring Champion:
    Talisman of Burning Blood; Powerfist and Bolt Pistol

    8x Khornate Berserkers:
    7x Chainaxes & Bolt Pistols
    Aspiring Champion:
    Talisman of Burning Blood; Powerfist and Bolt Pistol

    3x Obliterators:
    Body Weapons

    7x Plague Marines:
    Infiltrate; True Grit; 4x Bolters & CCW; 2x Plasma Gun
    Aspiring Champion:
    Powerfist & Bolter

    7x Plague Marines:
    Infiltrate; True Grit; 4x Bolters & CCW; 2x Plasma Gun
    Aspiring Champion:
    Powerfist & Bolter

    6x Plague Marines:
    Infiltrate; True Grit; 3x Bolters & CCW; 2x Plasma Gun
    Aspiring Champion:
    Powerfist & Bolter

    5x Chaos Space Marines:
    4x Bolt Pistol & CCW; 1x Lascannon

    8x Raptors:
    Daemonic Flight; Daemonic Visage; 4x Bolt Pistol & CCW; 3x Meltagun
    Aspiring Champion:
    Power fist & Bolt Pistol

    7x Havoc Squad:
    Tank Hunters; 3x Bolt Pistol & CCW; 4x Autocannon



    Strategy:
    The HQ is attached to the 6 man Plague squad.

    The Plague Marines infiltrate onto objectives or into cover. They can choose to hold ground (if on an objective or against a cc opponent) or advance (towards an objective or shooty army). If the Plague marines get stuck into a cc, they'll rely on their resilience to keep them fighting until a dedicated cc squad arrives (which shouldn't be long with jump packs or blood frenzy).

    The Plague Marines themselves can deal with horde troops (5 toughness, 3+ save, true grit), MEQ's/monstrous creatures (2 plasma guns, powerfist), and light tanks (2 plasma guns). Even if they get bogged down, a Berzeker charge will help even things out. Raptors can act as anti tank or "tie up" a cc unit with hit and run (especially nice against wyches). The Havocs cover anti tank, while the Obliterators and Lascannon squad are security against Moniliths (melta guns work too). Obliterators help out in whatever role they're needed in.

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    It's a close battle, but I'm going to have to give it to the Black Legion Both armies are well versed in CC, but I think that the infiltrating plague marines are going to be able to deal dictate exactly where this is going to take place, and on wich terms. They're not going to have a too hard of time taking out the key rhino's to slow down the wolves this should let them get the key charges by entangling the wolves inside.
    This should be the factor that tips the scale in favor of Black Legion.
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    I am not going to vote on this,as it is close. However you stated that the wolves will become entangled.But that is reliant on the wolves staying in their rhinos which will be stupid.They can charge forwad 12' and dismbark behind them,the rhino can even pop smokes to prevent the plagae marines blowing up the transports.Then they can charge the marines,using the rhino as moblie LOS blockers.

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    Black Legion

    I don't like the reliance on rhinos that the space wolves have. Also I think the LSTs are introuble due to the Havocs with autocannons.


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    Those auto cannons change the name of a rihno, to death coffins. As well as a bunch of plasma guns from nurgle dudes.

    This comes down to victory points, and the black legion will kill the most, since the wolves depend on rihnos.

    Also the bezekers are superior in CC to the blood claws. Although the HQs help even the odds.

    They will also be outnumbered, since the nurgle dudes can join in the assault as well.

    Chaos.

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    I'm going to vote for Black Legion.

    But it is quite close. However, the Black Legion have the rock-hard death guard to take the shooting punishment, the guns to shred power-armoured opponents, better assault units (although there are less of them), and the raptors to hop around causing havok, most likely supporting the berzerkers. The Black Legion can take whatever the SW can dish out, and hit back just as hard, if not harder.
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    black legion

    -the havocs and deth guard can out-shoot the space wolves, and the CC power of berzerkers and rock hard nugle units will win the CC scene. the wolves rhinos are a major pointy against them.
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    Black Legion

    They have rock-hard shooting, and still have rock-hard combat. They seem to outclass the Space Wolves in all scenarios. The rhinos will go down quickly to the havocs and the obliterators, leaving the Wolvies no real efficient way of dealing with the rock hard Plague Marines and uber-killy Berkerkers.

    Especially as the mission is "kill each other".

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    Black Legion

    The Black Legion as it stands wouldn't be that 'out done' by SW in CC. And the shooting will greatly dent the SW force.

    The Rhino's might aswell paint targets on their sides with all those Autocannons around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pierced53
    Black Legion



    Yes, what he said.

    Please contribute your own reasons as to why you think the Black Legion would win. Quoting another person won't do it. Please edit you post, or your vote will be discounted.
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