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    40K VWMkIV - Battle #25 - Iron Warriors versus Black Legion

    Please see this thread on how to participate in these games. I want to stress to everyone that the mission means everything. He who stands the best way to score Victory Points should be the winner. All missions have the Infiltration, Deep Strike, and Victory Points special rules.

    Mission Type - Seek and Destroy



    Iron Warriors
    Chaos Space Marines

    HQ: 266
    Elites: 0
    Troops: 252
    Fast Attack: 230
    Heavy Support: 799


    Chaos Lord:
    Darkblade; Close Combat Weapon; Daemonic Resilience; Daemonic Mutation; Spiky Bits; Terminator Armour

    Chaos Lieutenant:
    Pair of Lightning Claws; Daemonic Resilience; Daemonic Strength; Daemonic Mutation; Spiky Bits

    7x Chaos Space Marines
    Infiltration; 7x Bolt Pistol & Close Combat Weapons; Frag Grenades

    7x Chaos Space Marines
    Infiltration; 7x Bolt Pistol & Close Combat Weapons; Frag Grenades

    6x Chaos Space Marine Bikers
    4x Twin-Linked Bolters; 2x Meltaguns; Frag Grenades

    8 Havocs
    Tank Hunters; 4x Bolters; 4x Autocannons

    8 Havocs
    Tank Hunters; 4x Bolters; 4x Autocannons

    8 Havocs
    4x Bolters; 4x Missile Launchers

    Defiler:
    Battle Cannon; Twinlinked Autocannon; Heavy Flamer; Indirect Fire



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    Black Legion
    Chaos Space Marines

    HQ: 90
    Elites: 596
    Troops: 669
    Fast Attack: 295
    Heavy Support: 199


    Chaos Lieutenant:
    Mark of Nurgle; Infiltrate; Kai Gun

    8x Khornate Berserkers:
    7x Chainaxes & Bolt Pistols
    Aspiring Champion:
    Talisman of Burning Blood; Powerfist and Bolt Pistol

    8x Khornate Berserkers:
    7x Chainaxes & Bolt Pistols
    Aspiring Champion:
    Talisman of Burning Blood; Powerfist and Bolt Pistol

    3x Obliterators:
    Body Weapons

    7x Plague Marines:
    Infiltrate; True Grit; 4x Bolters & CCW; 2x Plasma Gun
    Aspiring Champion:
    Powerfist & Bolter

    7x Plague Marines:
    Infiltrate; True Grit; 4x Bolters & CCW; 2x Plasma Gun
    Aspiring Champion:
    Powerfist & Bolter

    6x Plague Marines:
    Infiltrate; True Grit; 3x Bolters & CCW; 2x Plasma Gun
    Aspiring Champion:
    Powerfist & Bolter

    5x Chaos Space Marines:
    4x Bolt Pistol & CCW; 1x Lascannon

    8x Raptors:
    Daemonic Flight; Daemonic Visage; 4x Bolt Pistol & CCW; 3x Meltagun
    Aspiring Champion:
    Power fist & Bolt Pistol

    7x Havoc Squad:
    Tank Hunters; 3x Bolt Pistol & CCW; 4x Autocannon



    Strategy:
    The HQ is attached to the 6 man Plague squad.

    The Plague Marines infiltrate onto objectives or into cover. They can choose to hold ground (if on an objective or against a cc opponent) or advance (towards an objective or shooty army). If the Plague marines get stuck into a cc, they'll rely on their resilience to keep them fighting until a dedicated cc squad arrives (which shouldn't be long with jump packs or blood frenzy).

    The Plague Marines themselves can deal with horde troops (5 toughness, 3+ save, true grit), MEQ's/monstrous creatures (2 plasma guns, powerfist), and light tanks (2 plasma guns). Even if they get bogged down, a Berzeker charge will help even things out. Raptors can act as anti tank or "tie up" a cc unit with hit and run (especially nice against wyches). The Havocs cover anti tank, while the Obliterators and Lascannon squad are security against Moniliths (melta guns work too). Obliterators help out in whatever role they're needed in.



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    Black Legion

    The Iron Warriors basically have 3 wasted Heavy Support, as they are by no means going to make their points back. The Black Legions 'ard as nails squads will move forward, and will simply out-class all the IW units. It may be bloody, but the Black Legion will most likely win.

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    You know, the more I look at that Black Legion list, the more I like it. It's not often you see something with a cohesive battle plan and not just a smattering of "These cool units," especially when it comes to Black Legion. Of course there are things I would change, but that's just personal taste more than lack of efficiency.

    Not trying to sway anyone of course, more just a shout out to the list creator for a job well done.


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    I feel sorry for any skimmers this IW army faces. However, the BL have can take the punishment and dish it out harder (in the form of cc). The zerkers can take the bikes, plague marines can take the shooting, and a charge if need be. The raptors will jsut lay down the hurt where ever possible. It's rare that I see a black legion list that's a true BL list.

    So I'm going to vote for BL for mission and fluff.
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    -black legion

    -the IW shooting isn't that effective, and the BL has a major bonus to CC, as well as more usefull shooting.
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    I Vote Black Legion

    The Iron Warriors list seems suprisingly small for 1850, the heavy support seems ineffective (no Baslilisk?) and the Black Legion list is nicely done, and should work well.
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    I too vote Black Legion

    They're better than the Iron warriors in CC, and as best I can tell they are a match for them in the shooting match. Sure their range is lower, but with the infiltrate it's not going to matter. Quite simply the Black Legion is more efficiently build, and it's going to show in them having the edge in this battle.
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    Black legion, while there HQ lacks CC ablility, the iron warriors arent buffed out to fight 3+ armour. There HQ, while they will make a signicant differance in CC, since both of them are much better then the black legion HQ, will however no be enough against the superior numbers and CC abilities of the black legion. Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForgedInTheFurnaceOfWar
    Black legion, while there HQ lacks CC ablility, the iron warriors arent buffed out to fight 3+ armour. There HQ, while they will make a signicant differance in CC, since both of them are much better then the black legion HQ, will however no be enough against the superior numbers and CC abilities of the black legion. Peace
    I'm assuming your voting for BL? Please bold your vote so it will be counted. Thanks! :yes:
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    Black Legion

    WEak iron warriors list, black legion list comes together well, with its unit mixing and it has a good strategy. I believe that the strategy will work wonderfully and I also vote Black Legion for fluff as it really jumps out as something you would see.

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