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    Hi everyone... i hope someone can help me with a rules question that came up yesterday afternoon in a small marine vs tau battle.

    a crisis suit was hiding behind firewarriors... my question is... since a character within 2 inches of a squad cannot be targetted individually, does the same follow for a character that is behind a squad, but within 2 inches of it?

    so what i'm asking is ... is there a chance of hitting the crisis suit if i focus everything on the firewarriors (in this case), as the crisis suit was within 2 inches of the squad?

    OH and.... if a crisis suit with 2 drones joins a squad, do the drones protect the crisis suit only or everybody? and can they be targeted themselves?


    thanks i really hope i can get these ones cleared up! :lol:

    i'm doing my best trying to learn all the rules!


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    First of all it is 6" not 2, and that only counts for indepent characters. So if the crisis suit was within 6", it could not be targeted so it could not be shot at. So No to your first question. Secondly, if a character purchases drones, it is no longer an independant character, so it cannot join squads. If the crisis that bought the drones was already in a squad, they just act any other model, execpt that shots have to be given to the drones first, same in cc. So the just give the squad two more wounds, kind of.
    and can they be targeted themselves?
    Your oppenent does not pick who gets hit, you distribute the wounds. Your oppenent can only do that if they unit or model has a special rule that lets them do that.

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    Somewhere in the Tau Codex, it says that a unit with Shield Drones retains it's Indipendant Character Status, and can still join units, not be picked out etc. (I Think, you should look it up.)

    You fire on squads, so if the I.C. (Which a Crises Suit is NOT) is with the squad then it can be hit, although it will be hit last.
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    on a similar note... what about a SM tactical squad standing a couple inches in front of a tank? The tank can&#39;t be shot at through the squad because the tank isn&#39;t twice as tall as the squad, right?
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    If the Fire Warrior squad was between the enemy and the Crisis suit, it couldn&#39;t be shot anyway, y&#39;can&#39;t shoot through enemy units.
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    oh great that answers most of my questions - THANKS&#33;

    but here&#39;s one that i don&#39;t think i asked right before :blink: ...

    since a crisis suit <6 inches from a squad CANNOT be independently targeted, can BOTH the squad and crisis suit be targetted together --&#62; IE, since the crisis suit is so close, and since hits are randomly allocated, could shots be allocated to the crisis suit?

    anyone know what i mean? or maybe anyone know how to ask this question better?

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    This is only if it&#39;s a Shas&#39;o, or Shas&#39;el, on its own mind you. Hits can only be allocated to anything within 2" of a squad shot at. It counts as being part of the squad, and even then, you can choose which models are taken off.
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    ahhhhh i see, so pretty much everyone would have all their cannonfodder die first, so there&#39;s no way to hit a crisis suit standing within 2 inches of a meat shield, because any commander within their right mind would have their character or big-ticket character die last (and pick the firewarriors to go first)?

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    troops can never block line of sight to a Vehicle, no matter what, only terrain and other vehicles can...

    and as for the crisis suit, if he has not joined the unit, he cannot be shot at until there is no other Tau units within 6" of him, if he has joined hte unit, he can be shot at as part of the unit, but remember the unit coming under fire allocates hits, so I doubt he would choose to have the Suit hit..
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    Crisis suits aren&#39;t counted as vehicles....
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