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I played a witchhunters vs tyranids battle very recently and my opponent stated he was declaring torrent of fire to pick wich gaunt was going to die. he could not find it in the BGB. Understandable that's some heavy reading but can anyone refer me to the page or explain it ? I never heard from it.
also a situation that happend.
a sister of battle unit was shooting my gaunts. after firing all of the stormbolters I had 2 more gaunts standing. he could still fire some bolters but he chose not to fire them so that a nearby unit could charge.
so we were kind of divided on this one. BGB doesn't say it but imho you don't stop in the middle of a shooting phase ...
any opinions on this ?
Hive Fleet Lucanus : 2000 points
He would have to declare it before the sqaud starts to fire which weapons will fire and which won't
yeah that is a good solution should we encounter such a situation again.
anyone something on the torrents ?
Hive Fleet Lucanus : 2000 points
'Torrent of Fire' is in the section on taking saving throws and removing casualties. If I recall it's in the second column on the first page of the section. There is no rule with that heading, it's just some text inside the saving throw rule. It starts out saying 'Sometimes a unit will be subject to a torrent of fire so great.. blah blah' hence the rule's colloquial name. I'm assuming you had cover saves? The rule can only be invoked if there are enough wounds for every model in range, which would automatically kill every gaunt in range normally, sisters don't pack much AP- weaponry! =)
Not all the weapons in the squad have to fire, but you have to decide before rolling any dice. All shooting happens simulataneously and all dice are rolled at the same time. The rules give you the option of rolling in parts only to account for situations where you run out of colors or run out of dice. You cannot, for example, shoot all your bolters and see what happens before deciding if you want to risk firing your plasma gun. I've seen some convoluted arguments in favor of being allowed to see the to hit roles and still decide on subsequent weapons, but you're definitely not shooting anything else once you've proceeded to a to-wound roll (blasts and templates not withstanding.)
As said, torrent applies when you have enough wounds to hit each model at least once. There is also a similar part in CC rules.
As said, shooting is done on a unit by unit basis. You must declare which parts of a unit are shooting BEFORE rolling any part of that unit. Also note, that by the rules, you are supposed to make ALL rolling from a source simultaneously, unless stated otherwise. Most people break this down by rolling either different colored dice, or declare "this is the lascannon", but again, you should declare all the unit as firing 5 bolters, the 1 plasma gun firing once, and the LC, or any parts there of... This prevents people from firing all the bolters first to see if they can avoid shooting the plasmas (tuhs risking killing their own guys).
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