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I went to my local hobby shop today and got to see Warhammer 40k played. I was confussed by some things and others I could follow. Obviously, I need to re-read the rules. So... do I need to buy that big rule book in the hobby shop or will my Battle For Macragge work?
Thank you in advance.
For me its the smaller book at work and the BGB (Big Grey Book) at home. The rules content is the same in both but ordered slightly different.
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BfM is a miniaturized version of the main rules.
As the others have already said, the BFM mini-book is exactly the same as the BGB in terms of the core rules. It lacks all the extra story and hobby content, but everything you need to play the game is the same, right down to the page numbers.
The big book is nice to have and all, but for economy's sake, the mini book is a much better choice - especially if you've already got it anyways!
Re-reading the rules is always helpful (you'd be amazed at how often an experienced player can flip through some areas and be surprised by something), but it really only goes so far. Some things are actually clarified or tweaked in the GW FAQ's when they (eventually) come out on the GW website, some things are altered by army or unit specific rules found in the codexes themselves, and some things you see in a game can occasionally be outright wrong! After all, if everyone playing in the area makes the same mistake, who's gonna catch it?
As a result, you can only get a certain level of understanding from purely reading the rules - sooner or later you'll find that some things are best learned by setting the book aside, grabbing your dice, and playing some games. Some rules (and interactions between rules) simply make the most sense when you play them through a few times. Also, the practical knowledge that marks the difference between a rookie and a veteran really only comes from experience - for example, I knew that DE Wyches could be a nasty unit, it was right there in their Codex entry... But knowing they could be nasty just isn't the same as watching them mulch a big squad of Terminators with no apparent effort out on the tabletop!
So sure, go back, review, and try to understand things better. If you've got any other questions, come on back and ask us - we're glad to help. But don't worry about getting a total understanding of everything right off the bat - mistakes are part of the learning process, and some things just have to be learned as you go.
I totally agree with the others. When I first started 1 year ago I got the Macragge set and thought that the rule book was specifically for the Macragge game and felt I was missing some rules particuarly associated with non SM or Tyranid armies, however having now got the big rule book as well I realise that it is not the case, they really are the same with the same page numbers etc, minus some extra bits. I expect that your questions and uncertainties are as a result of being new to it all and not knowing your way around the rules book or the codex. I suggest that you play against different people as everyone knows extra rules, if you have a question you either ask in a GW shop or look on forums. (I played someone who has been running a 40K club for years and, his son manages a GW shop and he was convinced that walkers had a 2" coherency and a 90 degree arc of fire, both are incorrect. I presume that he was thinking of something form a previous edition of the rules))
It has been mentioned that it is worth having two rules books, one for work, one for home. We have two because there are 4 of us in the family who play and so we can look things up at the same time (the rules book and codexes have the most appauling indices of any book I have seen, and it is infuriating waiting for someone to look something up as you would look in a different palce). This is all fair enough, however as you are a beginner I would stick to the Macragge book for now, especially as there are strong rumours about a 5th edition rules book .You would be really ***** if you spent £30 on a rules book as a "nice to have" only to find out that it was being replaced shortly and you needed to buy another on anyway.
I forgot to say, don't be embarassed that you only have a macragge book and feel a second class gamer. Those of us that have the big book are jealous because you can flick through the paperback more easily (cos the covers bend) and it is smaller and lighter to carry around.
Last edited by Lost Nemesis; February 21st, 2008 at 04:06.
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Yeah, I had the Macragge book and thought that the BRB was different so I spent another $50 on it.
I was kind of upset to find out that it was the EXACT same book, although the BRB does have some cool terrain ideas, some cool scenarios/battles, some amazing fluff, and some awesome pictures.
But the Macragge book is superior in my opinion. It bends, it's small and light, and I wouldn't feel as bad if I spilled a drink on it.
I always think it was annoyingGW dont sell the smaller rule books on their own as gaming editions without the starter boxes- but I guess if they did that less people would buy the BRB! Why not sell them in a pack with dice, some templates and a tape measure?
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