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ok, I am a tad confused with the rules on the veteran marines of the DWKT.
The rules say you can upgrade ANY marine to a vet that is part of this squad. THe rules state that you can upgrade the vets with powerfist, lightning claws.... unless they have a special wepaon. Does this mean you can arm them with heavy bolters w/suspensors????
I know that you can give 2 of these to the squad's regular marines....but is it possible to arm the vets with them also???? If this is possible, DAMN, that is some serious fire power and they get 2 attacks in cc!
Am I understanding this correctly?
No you can't. If you upgrade them to a vet they may choose from the "Any veteran may be armed with..." list.
Two marines from the squad may be upgraded with the special weapons listed. If you choose to arm one of your upgraded vets with a special weapon (making them one of the two TOTAL models that can upgrade with special weapons) then you cannot also arm them with the vet weapons.
So as many vets as you want with choices from the vet list, but only two models with special weapons, be they vet or otherwise.
thanks for the help. too bad, how great would that have been?! hehehe
Because i just loved the Kill Teams i made a full squad of them, faces, pads, weapons, the whole kit: they can be great but greatness comes at a price. I have:
1 Captain w/ storm bolter and power weapon
3 Veterans w/ bolter and power fist
5 Veterans w/ bolter and power weapon
1 space marine w/ bolter and cc weapon
All at a reasonable cost of 510 pts alone. That's a single HQ choice.
Is there any point in stating that for the two years or so that I have them i only played with them twice???
that is funny. You know, I was under the impression that the good thing about the DW are their ability to shoot and fight and get 2 attacks all the time, not to metion the ability to have 2 HVY bolters w/suspensors and all the special ammo!
Im thinking of having a few lighting claws in there instead of powerfists...what you think?
I am going to use them tomorrow against Dark Eldar....but instead of putting them in a Rhino, I will sit them back and SHOOT away till they F up as many of those murdering hordes as possible before they jump into HtH with me!
I upgraded my leader to a Librarian and gave him a force weapon and a bolter (to get the bonus of True grit.....do they get it with a Stormbolter too like the Grey Knights???
Well, i made the squad so that i could make a sisters of battle army dedicated to close combat and this squad would give a lot of punch.... just a little too expensive . Just so that you can have an idea how close combat i molded my sisters in the old army list along with my canoness and celestian superio there were 14 celestians as bodyguard and between the 16 models there were 11, yes 11 power weapons and 11 plasma pistols.
I once killed 5 Blood Angels Terminators in one shooting phase alone with this two squads.
About the True Grit... in the Death-Watch kill team entry they do not talk about any storm bolters, just bolters so i woudn't think that the Librarian gets the ability, every army has a diferent kind of True Grit
you can upgrade a DW to a librarian....they too get the true grit.....i would only imagine!