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    Flame Templates

    Couple questions on flame weapons. Rules for it say that no part may touch any friendly models. Does this include the unit that the weapon is in? ie the flamer is in the back rank wich would put the template over the front. Im pretty sure that i cant do what i just described but this one i think is a bit trickier.

    Vehicles.
    Defiler. The heavy flamer he has is pretty short and would burn off most of his legs if he used it

    Rhino. Fireing points. again looking at the model the template would start from the edge of the hatch and touch parts of the vehicle, or if shooting it straight ahead it would go over most of the front end of the vehicle.


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    Once the flame template is fired, it can touch no friendly model. This includes any in the unit that is firing it, so you want to make sure your models with flamer templates are as close to the enemy as possible. If the model can't fire the template without touching a friendly model, then it can't fire it. (A problem with Flamers of Tzeentch when they DS in, for example.)

    The vehicles question is a little bit more ambigious. From a strict RAW perspective, the vehicles couldn't fire the templates - nor could a Landspeeder, for example. In 4th Ed, they had a line specifically stating that the flame was over the hull, and to smack the rules lawyer in the head with a chair for being stupid. That wasn't included with this one. In the case of a vehicle firing a hull-mounted weapon, it's probably the easiest to justify - just as the template will be over the base of the infantry models that fire them, so to is it touching the vehicle that fired it.

    Models inside a transport shooting out of a firing point are a bit harder. That said, these models follow the same restrictions as the vehicle itself in terms of the number of shots they're allowed to fire, both in terms of movement and damage. An argument could be made that they're to be treated as though they were vehicle mounted weapons for the purposes of the template. However, this is, again, getting into RAI v. RAW - the best thing to do with this is discuss it with your opponent before the game starts.

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    The "models firing out of a vehicle with a flamer" one was covered by an FAQ in 3rd Ed which said that the model was considered to be 'leaning far enough out over the side of the vehicle so as not to hit it' (paraphrasing) - in other words, measure from the hull. Now I'm not saying to apply 3rd Ed FAQs but that was how they dealt with that particular situation then.

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    sounds pretty reasonable. Dont think it will come up to often anywaise but i like to be up on all the rules to speed the game up during complicated situations.

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