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I came upon a weird problem with eldar tonight. My opponenant had two of their skimmers loaded with a squad of 10 warriors (2 with some lance weapons each) He informed me that he could move and fire all of his weapons on the ship... including the ones of the passengers. He moved his ships 12" so would he have been able to have his passengers shoot?
Do you mean Dark Eldar? They have open-topped transports. That means the whole bloody vehicle is one big fire point for the passengers.
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If he moved 12'' (i.e. cruising speed) then no, the passengers cannot fire (pg. 66 "Fire Points"). Also, bear in mind even if he moved combat speed the passengers still count as moving. So the lances which are heavy weapons cannot fire at all if the vehicle moved, the splinter rifles which are rapid-fire can only shoot 12'', but splinter cannons which are assault could fire normally.
As for the weapons on the raiders themselves, there's a few options possible so it's hard to say whether he was doing anything illegal, but as a fast vehicle the raider can move up to 12'' and fire one primary weapon and all defensive weapons. If he has a horrorfex (the pinning small blast weapon), remind him to check his FAQ, the horrorfex always as a primary weapon. So basically, his fire options on a raider could potentially look like this:
1.) Move 12'' and fire a dark lance
2.)Move 12'' and fire a disintegrator (plasma cannon profile)
3.) Move 12'' and fire the horrorfex
4.) Move 12'' and fire the horrorfex (primary weapon) and disintegrator (defensive weapon profile)
EDIT: Typically, I will move 12" with a raider and shoot with all passengers. My reasoning for this is that a Fast vehicle can shoot as if it were moving at combat speed when it moves at cruising speed, so the passengers should be affected similarly. This may not be exactly RaW, but it makes plenty of sense for friendly games.
Dark Lance teams are usually left off of Raiders unless they have to get the heck outta' dodge.
Last edited by Krovin-Rezh; January 15th, 2009 at 22:36. Reason: Error fix!
Ah, you caught my error before it was fixed! You cheeky little monkey!