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I have a question about measuring your movement when you come onto the board in the first turn of Dawn of War "as if from reserves." In the last game I played, my opponent wasn't sure where he should deploy his assault troops, and wanted to know if he could measure their movement at one point to see if he thought he would be in range to charge from his 12 inches in, and if he didn't think he would be, then would have them come in on a different place on the board.
We decided that if he decides to measure from one place on the board, then he must choose to bring his unit in from that spot no matter what as that act would dictate that they were deployed just off the table edge where he started measuring from.
Thoughts, comments, actual rulings?
(did that make enough sense to you all)
It's a rule that you cannot pre-measure anything, not movement, not shooting, not reserves, I'm not sure what page it is because my rulebook is in Canada at the moment, but if you try to pre-measure in any official tournament you'll be sternely told "Sorry! Not happening".
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You can measure your movement in one direction, then decide to move a completely different direction per the rulebook... but that's a far stretch from measuring from a place on a board edge then deciding to come on in a different location. After all, you could argue that measuring from that specific point means that your guys are there. Now they don't have to move to the first place they measured, but they should then enter from that location.
I was told you can pre-measure movement in the movement phase, to decide where you want to go. Is that not the case?
But in your second line you say you already decided that he get's to measure, but that's that, no changing boardsides afterwards. So what is your question exactly? I feel there may be some confusion.
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It's not a different board side that is in question, as he must come from his own table edge, it is where on the board side, ie one foot from the left edge or 2 feet from the right edge etc. So if he measures his movement for a unit 1 foot from the left edge, he must then choose to move them in, starting at 1 foot from the left edge, he can't decide he doesn't like that spot and then choose to come in from 2 feet from the right edge.
Hopefully that makes more sense. If not, I'll try again.
I dont believe the pre-measure rule had deployment spots in mind..
I think the spirit of the rule is based on static units.....
Its the same thing with drop pods/deep strikers you can not pre measure 12 inches in so they dont go off the board..
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Page 3 BRB –
“In general, players are not allowed to measure any distance except when the rules call for it.”
And deploying is one of those calls.
In Dawn of War there indeed must be pre-measuring going on in order to be at least 18” away from enemy units when deploying second, so there is a precident allowing this to happen.
And moving on from reserves is done using the rules for Movement and (as already stated) you can pre-measure and then change your mind.
The difference here is that the point of origin is not fixed when starting the move and there is no rule for covering this difference. You simply have a point of origin that is a line rather than a point – and a line gives you choice, no longer being static.
So I would fall back upon the precedence given by the 18” rule and the movement phase rule of “you can change your mind.”
Last edited by Wicky; March 23rd, 2009 at 23:29.
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