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A very simple question, can you fire through friendly models? Is it considered not having a LoS?
If the friendly models actually block all LOS, then no, you can't fire. However, this would be a rare case that any model other than a vehicle would completely block LOS for an entire unit.
However, if a friendly model or models are in the way, then the enemy unit you are firing at gets a cover save.
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I'm going to start an Imperial Guard army soon so thats why I was asking. So I'm guessing that each platoon in a fully loaded troop selection can't be in tight formation right behind each other to shoot...oh and how much of a cover save would you get?
That's always going to be a bit of a grey area I fear. Just how many ranks deep can you get before the guys in back can't see past their friends? Unfortunately it also depends on the size of the target and range to the target! At least guardsmen don't have backpacks and can sort of see over other's shoulders usually.
In some cases it's obvious. If you put a guardsman base to base behind a Terminator, it is quite clear a good 30 degrees or so of his arc is blocked. With a big horde of similarly sized models it gets tricky.
At least close order drill is gone. Good riddance too, don't think I ever saw a close order drill user play legally. /rant
Just keep in mind that while both friendly and enemy models block LoS as a general rule, other squad members of your same unit do not. This includes squadrons of vehicles.
So, if you have a single unit of guardsmen, it doesn't matter how clumped up they are as they do not block each others' sight... but if a second unit was behind them, they would be unable to see through if the front guys were packed too close together.
Thank for all the info really appreciate it.
While everyone is correct above, its stands to be said that, friendly models in the same unit do not block LOS at all. So if you have an infantry platoon with 3 infantry squads, and you use the "Combine Squads" rule, then they would be able to fire at any unit the front guys could see. Yes thats all 30 men firing at the same target.
I should have been more specific with my question but Xpyre35's answer was what I was looking for. If I have a infantry platoon with a platoon HQ squad and 5 infantry squad I should be able to line them up and basically volley fire the hell out of anyone in front of me since they are all part of a single troop squad correct?
*IF* you use the combined squads rule and join them all into one giant 50 man unit instead of 5 ten man units, then yes. Does make them kind of vulnerable to assaults