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    gear/bio-morphs/what ever tourniment rules.

    Hello all. I have a question, I find that a lot of people ask "can I use a piece of gear that the model has?". But I have the completely opposite quesiton,

    Can you not use a piece of gear that you have on you model in general?

    I know a lot of people will answer "it depends on how the person feels, how strict the tournament is, blah blah blah". So please instead say what you find is the typicall response to not using a piece of gear that you have on your model.

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    For small stuff, sure. You shouldn't be forced to use, say, an auspex every game just because there happens to be some little gadget hanging from a model's belt.

    If that model was hauling around a multi-melta and you tried to call it a bolter, that's a different story.
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    What about toxin sacs or adrenal glands?
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    Most non-tyranid players can't recognize non-weapon biomorphs... and even those that can typically don't look in that much detail but tend to instead ask you what ones you've taken (or just check your list). I wouldn't worry about it.

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    The important thing to keep in mind with this kind of question is consistency. If *none* of the models that have the bit glued on actually have the upgrade, that's fine.

    It's when, say you have 5 broods that have the upgrade modeled, but only 2 actually have it. Now you're forcing your opponent to keep track and causing confusion. This is what the WYSIWYG rule is meant to prevent. Confusing your opponent with two models that look the same but have different rules.

    If all the models in your army that look the same have the same rules, you're pretty much safe (barring outright proxies on weapons, which will never fly in a tournament )

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    With minor biomorphs like adrenal glands, enhanced senses, and flesh hooks I don't think opponents would mind whether they're modeled on or not. Just tell your opponent beforehand or show him your list. Chances are they won't even know what they are just by looking at it.

    It's when you substitute weapon biomorphs that opponents will get confused. Getting a carnifex with a venom cannon and barbed strangler and saying it has crushing claws and talons would be like saying the marine's heavy bolter is actually a lascannon. It's confusing for the opponent and should be avoided.

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    Thats good news, I was thinking about my Hive Tyrant and hormagaunts, thankyou very much everyone for clearing up things for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hive Fleet Ruina View Post
    Thats good news, I was thinking about my Hive Tyrant and hormagaunts, thankyou very much everyone for clearing up things for me!

    If your in a serious tournament expect to run into someone who cares......and as lame as it is they are within their rights to complain.

    Take the upcoming 'ard boys it specifically states your models must be WYSIWYG.

    this is the reason I avoid tourneys though...but especially at the regional level you better expect trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R3con View Post
    If your in a serious tournament expect to run into someone who cares......and as lame as it is they are within their rights to complain.

    Take the upcoming 'ard boys it specifically states your models must be WYSIWYG.

    this is the reason I avoid tourneys though...but especially at the regional level you better expect trouble.
    Er, I play in a lot of tournaments. I play in "serious" ones, too (Adepticon, Big Waaagh, Exterminatus GT's). I don't see these people that you describe.

    Anyway, virtually all of the tournaments that I go to are open list where they tell you to share copies of your list with each other before the game starts. At that point, most people don't care what you have modelled as your biomorphs as long as it's not confusing.

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