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I know this will sound an utterly stupid question that anyone who plays 40k should instinctivly know the answer, but I just want to make sure whether this Space Marine player is cheating or not. Also to have something to show him if he is just getting the rules wrong. Are the following things legal? Is there anyway they can be done?
1) All marines have feel no pain.
2) Orbital bombardment can happen in any phase of any players turn with no scatter.
3) Terminators can deepstrike whenever they want.
4) 10 man squads can split into 5 and rejoin whenever they want.
5) Same with ICs.
I will answer your questions assuming he is using Codex: Space Marines (5th edition).
If you use the campaign experience system he could get feel no pain for all his squads (main rulebook, page 263). But otherwise just make him show you where his codex says that all his marines have feel no pain.
None of this is true. None of this is true. Not all of them have feel no pain hardly any do.
Orbital bombardment must be used in the shooting phase of that players turn and the user may not of moved, also is does scatter 2d6 and is not reduced by ballistic skill. .
Terminators enter like any other deep striking people. The squads can split before the game starts into five man teams.This is because of combat tactics but you can not rejoin them or split them while the game is on.
Keep it clean.
Last edited by Skarsgard; September 16th, 2009 at 00:13.
I know you may find the Tyranids physically repellent to look at but believe me, you don't want to let them out of your sight.
Cheers for the quick answers.
He says that because feel no pain is in the space marine special rules at the start of the codex, everything gets it...
About the terminators deep-striking: the Space Marine librarian can have a psychic power that teleports him and the unit he has joined to some other place on the battlefield via deep-striking. So if by "can deep-strike whenever they want" you mean teleporting around the battlefield, this could be true if he used them with a librarian with that power.
Yeah, everyone's already given a rundown of how much of what he said is total BS, so I'm just wondering are either one of you new players? This sounds like a situation where an experienced player (read: asshole) might try to pull one over on a newbie, or a new player who doesn't know any better egregiously misread the rules.
The section in fact starts with "The models in the Space Marines army use a number of special rules that are common to more than one unit, as specified in the individual entries that follow" - not ALL models.
The only thing I'll add to all of the above, is regarding #3. Terminators may deep strike in missions, where deep strike isn't specifically allowed. Now all of the basic mission have Deep Strike in this edition, but if a Tournament, or some Campaign, or other rule was in place; Terminators would still be allowed to Deep Strike.
Other than that, yes this guy you've encountered, isn't even worth acknowledging the next time you run into him.
I just want to add that he probably misread the "And They Shall Know No Fear" Space Marine Special Rule. I know I did when I first started playing. That name sounds a lot like fearless and makes the mistake easy to make.
This rule alters the rules for Space Marine regrouping after they start to retreat. Also if they are caught in a sweeping advance, instead of being destroyed they count as having the No Retreat! universal special rule instead.
Never play with that guy again.
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