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If I deploy a vehicle at the start of the game that contains a unit, must I
1. Show all units' in vehicles and/or in reserves to my opponent (or leave them in the box)
Obviously I could mark this down and show upon revealing so as to be fair.
2. Declare which unit is in which vehicle (after all, how would the enemy commander know?)
In a friendly game:
I let them see my army list, shows which units are in A vehicle
then I mark down away from his eyes which unit is in each.
He wont know till he either cracks them open or I disembark
In a tourney:
Follow what the rules say
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I typically have it written down in my army list, so that when I take the unit out of my transports/reserve, I can show my opponent that I'm not pulling his leg; I think that is the most fair way to go about it.
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I always show the roster to the opponent prior to the game, but only because I want to see his list, so it’s only fair to reciprocate.
So it becomes a memory game of show once – forget many, and I see players ruminating during a game “Now what was in that Rhino since it’s now turn 3?”
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heh, good point. I certainly wouldn't mind knowing if he has a calidus assassin!
I do like the idea of deception, forcing him/her to adjust in fear of my 'empty' falcon or wave serpent. (could it have fire dragons, or wraithguard, or banshees, or fuzzy bunnies of death!)
Mine is probably way too obvious to an opponent. All my black legion troops go in black rhinos and the bezerkers go in red rhinos with Khorne symbols on them. Probably a bit of a give away.
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General rule for me for this is full disclosure ( I think the brb also states this is the norm ). When I set up I make sure my opponent knows what is in each transport and what I have in reserve. During the game if they ask I will let them know what is in a transport and if there is continued confusion I will mark them with a dice or a model. I expect the same basic things in return. If someone wants to play secretly that is fine but make sure to tell me that before I start handing out my list, and telling you what is in what.
I like to win the game based on better tactics or better dice. Winning because I fooled you into thinking a transport held my council instead of some storm guardians just doesn't seem like that great of a win.
In a tournament I will often print out extra lists for the people that I am going to play. Mainly so they can have something to take home with them and study why they lost... nah seriously I enjoy ending up wiht a few lists at the end of a day. Makes it easy to remember what happened if anyone asks and the easiest way to get that ball rolling is to do it yourself.
The other thing about the list is I run a Dark Eldar force an most people don't know what things look like (even dark eldar players have no idea what a horrorfex looks like) so having it on the list helps other people, and stops them giving me the "Your shifty" eye.
However in the case of transports I play by the BRB. I don't tell people, i wait for them to ask and then happily disclose what I have in each one.
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