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Im basically here to spread the word about the Deff Rolla petition.
Everyone knows how bad the debates get over weather or not it is used on infantry only, or vehicles as well.
So naturally Ive taken it upon myself to make an online petition. All you have to do is click the link, provide the information (click on the skip for the sites donators) and your signature will be on the list. Im wanting to hit 500 signatures and then send it away to Games Workshop. It might not do anything, then again it might just give us what we want.
LETS GET GAMESWORKSHOP TO MAKE A RULING ALREADY!!!
The Deff Rolla Petition
Why not start a petition that they FAQ everything else that theyve left open ended and gets debated as often as cows fart.
GW needs to pull thier head out of the sand and get to work on dozens of questions and issues, not just this one. Sorry dont mean to rain on your parade..
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Why do you need a petition? I comfortably say it doesn't work on vehicles because if it did it would be absurdly over-powered and the only way to play Orks would be 3 Battlewagons with Deff Rollas.
I've seen arguments over Deff Rollas but never that it can be used in ramming except online, seems like wishful thinking by Ork players.
Good luck getting GW to do something about anything though, that'd be godly.
Firstly, I agree that GW has TONS of rules that they need to FAQ, thats a no brainer. But asking them to fix ALL of them now is like asking god to prove he exists, it just wont happen. BUT asking them to fix one seems more feesable.
Secondly, I play Orks, infact I would say I totally LOVE playing Orks. However much I agree with you that you cannot use a deff rolla on a vehicle, LOTS of people beleive you can, mainly because the online community has a LOT of people that say you can. This just further overpowers the Orks, and further gives them a bad rep. I dont like that because as stated previously, I love the Orks.
Im not asking alot from this, it literally takes about 15secs to fill the petition out, and your done. Im hoping that this will show GW that maybe they should take another look at what WE want as a community, not just more sales for them, seeing as we pay their salaries and such, from buying what should be a completed (mostly) game.
Just giving an update.
The first 2 days of the petition were pretty good. I got 45 in the first 24 hours. The second day started slowing, and now its at a snails crawl. It seems that only a few 40k forums out there are actually allowing me to post my petition link.
So now Ive been helped out by a friendly mod at heresy online (wont name names incase they get in trouble) So I have to now check for PMs and send them the link. Thank god this is one of the forums that is allowing me to at least try to get GW to fix some rules openly.
Cmon guys/gals, we all know that GW needs to fix some rules, and sitting around doing nothing isnt going to get the ball moving. Tell your friends, your family, especially your gaming buddies. These rules effect everyone that plays the game.
So keep on signing everyone! We need to get a ruling,FAQ, INAT faq, something.
Well the signatures are slowing down alot. Alot of forums seem to be completely biased and have stopped my attempts on this petition on all fronts. I cant even receive PMs about the petition. Which is fine because I was banned on one site just for bringing it up.
So cmon guys if you really want something done about rules you need to help out! I cant be the only person that plays 40K that wants some clear rules written.Tell your friends, and pass it along at other sites if you want. You dont need my permission to do so lol
I'd make peace with it man. There are frankly bigger rules in dispute that come up more often and are harder to solve. Anyone trying to use Deff Rollas on Rams are blatantly power-gaming, it's a non-issue in my mind.
GW is not going to listen to a petition, there is no history of them doing that to my knowledge, they don't go back and update FAQs to my knowledge and a few of the bigger Indy's have rules on this which is good enough for me.
It's cool you want to help the game but look at GWs customer service track record, it's not going to happen. That may sound defeatist but I know the company pretty well and it's not how they do business from what I've seen over more than a few years, sadly. Don't get yourself banned from anymore forums or deal with the grief.
To you it may very well be a non issue. And personally Ive never heard of anyone doing a petition for anything on rules. Ive come across alot of things, and not once have I ever heard of "well so and so tried a petition once"
I think it is an issue that needs to be corrected. I play Orks, and Im sure ALOT of people either play them, or play against them. Any self respecting Ork player will take the rolla, its dirt cheap and can do alot of damage. Saying this isnt an issue is funny to me. It comes up alot, anytime someone plays against an Ork player that has one, it will come up.
The 80 some people that have signed it so far seem to agree with me. Infact there would be ALOT more signatures if the mods and admins on the problems sites, would just let me give it my best shot. Its all I can do, is try my best. Its been so bad on some of these sites, I really think they have some kind of fear of being mentioned to GW for just participating.
So again, if you think this is a waste of your time, then thats fine, you dont have to sign the petition. Just roll your eyes, make a wise crack, whatever gets you past it fine. But if it sounds like something you want, or even if you dont play Orks, you just think GW SHOULD post some updated FAQs then please sign away. Send it to a buddy, tell you gaming group about it. GW not doing timely FAQs is total crap to us as hobbyists.
Just chill on the holier than thou routine for a sec. I made no cracks, I did no eye rolls. The fact is you'd need a tidal wave of people to do anything and there are bigger rules issues than the Deff Rolla one, that's a bottom line fact as well.
Just chill, stop acting like this is a national security incident and you have no problem from me. Good luck, I hope stuff like this works sometimes.
What he said. The people who run the UK GT agree as well.
Instead of a "let's make this cheesy poo legal" petition, start a "let's have a new Codex please with options for killing vehicles so we don't have to resort to rules-lawyering our Deffrollas" petition.