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Can you fire template weapons (like flamers) from fire points of a transport? I'm asking this because you would always be hitting the transport with at least a bit of the template, hence making the shot illegal... or do you take a hit on your side armour?
Yes you can. The model firing the template weapon doesn't count as a "friendly model" - that has to be another model that is potentially in the area of effect of the template weapon. That I believe is the intent. The other option is just too asinine.
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Yeah, if you follow the assumption to it's logical conclusion, you'd end up with crazy situations like the Hellhound variants or the Baal Predator being forever unable to fire their turret weapons, lest they hit themselves.
To me it revolves around true line of sight as much as anything else, you can not draw a line of sight to your own vehicle from the muzzle of the weapon.
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Also, the template rules restrict the touching of friendly models, but not the firing model itself.
In fact, the tip of the template is already touching the firing model.
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I have always played that turret mounted flamer weapons such as the razorback or chimera fire from the edge of the vehicles hull. I always thought this was the actual way to do things. perhapse i drempt it.
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^ That's only for open-topped vehicles, Mad Cat.
The model firing the template weapon is understood to be ignored when determining who is hit by it. Otherwise, even a Space Marine with a flamer would be hitting himself every time he shoots it. Unfortunately, this is not well described in the rulebook, so it falls upon our common sense to indicated the intent. So technically the flamer would be hitting the shooter if you went strictly by RAW, but (almost?) no one will allow them to be played that way, even in the rules lawyering pits that are competitive tournaments.
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In a previous Edition, an FAQ clarified that a template weapon which was fired from a vehicle's firepoint took its measurement from the edge of the vehicle. However, I only mention the previous Ed FAQ just to show that the question had indeed been dealt with and answered at that time. Basically the vehicle wasn't affected because the firing model was assumed to be leaning out far enough so as not to hit the vehicle he was travelling in!!
Since there is no modern-day update to this set-up, we have to go with what is in the 5th Ed BRB and with our common sense.
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I believe the OP's specific issue was a passenger on a transport firing a template weapon.
This does not fall under the "ignore the firing model" approach and I have seen it ruled both ways.
I personally believe that since the model doing the firing is not on the table and the measurement is done from the transport then it counts as the "firing model".
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