Welcome to Librarium Online!
Join our community of 80,000+ members and take part in the number one resource for Warhammer and Warhammer 40K discussion!
Registering gives you full access to take part in discussions, upload pictures, contact other members and search everything!
These two rules that exist in the IG Codex, both metion when firing on a monsterous creature, gain X bonus.
My question is how does this apply to an MC within a unit. IE a walking Hive Tyrant with Tyrant Guard?
That is an interesting question...one of those questions that just isn't covered by the BRB. The book normally only covers homogenous units (i.e. units of all infantry or all monstrous creatures but not units of both). In the case of mixed unit types, there are 2 trends:
1) go by the most limiting model. For example, you put an infantry model with a jump infantry unit, the entire unit moves as regular infantry.
2) go by the unit majority or 50% rule. For example, if 50% or most of a unit is in cover, they all get cover.
In either case, you'd probably have to come up with a concensus with your opponent on this one. I'd go for #2, that is, if the Tyrant only has 1 guard, then I would consider it still a monstrous unit. However, if it had 2 or more guards, then the monstrous creature is no longer the majority (or 50% of the unit) and it is no longer a monstrous unit.
Record: Win - Loss - Draw: Hive Fleet Pandora (New) 32-6-6 Space Wolf 7th Co. 52-11-6
Blood Angels 12-4-2 Daemonhunters 20-8-3
Imperial Guards 12-5-2 Daemons 8-3-2
Majoirty rules. It's a theme with 5th Ed so I would stick with it.
So I agree with jy2
Mirage Arcana Podcast
The "A Smart Player Will..." theory is a complete paradox. If we make an assumption that everything we do is outsmarted, then theoretically we can never win.
I hadn't thought of it that way, and now prepares me to take more than 1 Tyrant Guard. I much prefer the majority rules angle, than confer before the game. Much appreciated.
If your store uses the INAT faq, they've ruled that neither of those abilities work on mixed units like that.