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The Witchhunters codex says I have to "take note" of what terrain piece I'm using, but it says nothing about telling the enemy what it is. I could, for instance, number the pieces of terrain on the board to the enemy, then secretly write it down on a piece of paper, and he wouldn't find out till it hit him. Is this legal?
And for that matter, do I have to tell the enemy anything about things like items on my HQ if I don't want to, like if my Inquisitor Lord has a Rosarius or not?
Every whisper of the future from the Warp speaks of a hundred battles lost, a thousand lives devoured and a million enemies born. -- Inquisitor Lord Babel
To start off your opponent has the right to read your army list so that resolves a lot of problems and questions.
In relation to the OS you only need to tell him that you are using one in your army. The way i did it was doing either a rough map of the battlefield and marking the piece of terrain chosen or just tell a friend before the game whioch piece of terrain you are centring the OS on....
Actually in the NEW BBB it specifically states that you do NOT have show any portion of your army list to your opponent. Of course my friends and I already ignore this as we like to doublecheck each other's math (and have ours DC'd in turn).Originally posted by Hugus@Sep 15 2004, 05:44
To start off your opponent has the right to read your army list so that resolves a lot of problems and questions.[snapback]213121[/snapback]
Use a piece of paper and write down where it is, also you should do this with your transports to keep people from saying you're cheating due to the new rules
Lord Hat: Are you sure about that?
If so then how will we be able to know if your opponent's army list is actually legal?
Whicg page is that written on? Don't remember reading it....
Lord Hat is right, he beat me to posting, it does explicit state your opponent has no right to see your list before or during a battle, nor know which troop is in which transport and this should presumably apply to orbital strikes.
This is all fine and dandy but does rather allow players of a more questionable morality to exploit it and will make genuine mistakes easier as well, you can of course check things after the game, this really doesnt address the fact you just played against 1850 points with your 1500 points list, always a bit of a kick in the whatsits.
It is really about how much you trust your opponent. the problem is, mistakes asside, anyone who deosnt mind you seeing their list before the game is probably not inclined to cheat anyway, those who are inclined to cheat are the sort that will not show you their list. As a starter, ask them if they will show you thir list before the game, if they say yes then trust them and play them without looking at it, if they say no, be worried
Everything you have been told is a lie!
You do not tell th opponent where the orbital strike is, you write down which bit of terrain it is on.
As for army lists, I agree to not showing your opponent the list before the battle so you can spring secret weapons on him during the battle. How is someone on the field going to know exactly what your glowing sword does?
It means you have to trust your opponent, and check their army list after the battle to see they have only what they used. As you will soon find out if they cheated they will gain nothing from cheating because it would be an unfair victory.
The other way is to have a neutral person who does everything like measuring distances, for the purposes of charging, guess range, shooting etc. This is probably the best way but it means you need another person...