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Not sure if I can make this make sense, but 'ere we go. So I have a unit of which 3 models are in range of one model in my enemy's unit. I assume all three of mine get to fire, but can I kill more than one of his models? This wouldn't seem so bad for normal models, but what about a unit of bikes. It makes a big difference when the points values of the models gets higher and higher.
Also, this is semi-related. I fire at a unit in which all the models in the unit have two or more wounds. I do one wound and the opponent puts it on a guy way in the back. Now another unit I have fires at his unit, but only 2 of my models are in range of one of his (similar to the first part). I do one wound to the unit. Does he have to remove the unit with one wound all the way in back that is out of range of all my models? I'm pretty sure this is the rule, but it seems to contradict.
1. You can only kill the one. At least you get three chances to kill him
2. The extra wound is a 'floater' It does not stay assigned to any one particular model, but to the unit. The target unit must remove a whole model when possible, and the target must be one within the range of your weapons.
I was under the impression the caualties could come from anywhere in the unit. Since for, instance, if the only model in range was a heavy weapon model or an icon bearer the models owner gets to choose another model. Right?
:hmm: I was under the impression that you can only remove casualties from models in range of the guns inflicting said wounds. Or at least that's what i read in the BBB. For that reason, the only model in range of the guns shouldn't be a hvy weapons troop, otherwise you have f*cked up my friend! :rofl:
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I don't deny it would be a f*d up situation to be in, but the way it fluffed out was like 'another trooper sees the guy with the lascannon/Icon go down and he rushes over to pick it up so the unit can continue the mission.' That kind of makes sense to me. Am I the only one who read this?
That's the explanation I read as well. Although it makes no sense. Think about the powerpack etc. that a lascannon needs. It's a stupid rule!
But a rule it is.
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The bit about picking up the fallen heavy weapon was GW's poorly written reason to justify taking casualties from troops other than the heavy weapon guy within the same unit. It has NOTHING to do with the rules.
As far as only taking casualties on those within range, and only being able to fire with troops in range, it is spelled out on page 22 under 'Check Range'.
So if you are in the poorly planned position of only having your heavy weapon troop in range of an enemy squad, you loose that guy and everything he carries. Nothing can be picked up by another troop. If half your squad is out of range, that half automatically misses.
You can take other models out from your unit as long as they
A) Are in Line of sight
Are in your weapons range
so if you see a heavy weapon model standing alone with the rest of his unit in cover, out of los, the one model in los is hit, ie the hw carrier
If the same silly model is at the front of a unit, the only one in your range, again he is the only valid target and casualty.
If it's the front model but other models in the group are in range and los your opponant can remove a model further back. (models in the same unit don't block los to each other.)
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