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    If i my opponent has a squad of multiple wound creatures say ogrins with 2 wounds each, and i inflict 4 wounds to the unit with a flamer weapon do 4 ogrins take one wound each or do 2 ogrins take two wounds each (in accordance with removing whole models when possible). It doesn't seem right to remove whole models in this situation.


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    The flame template only detirmines how many hits are achieved. Since the opposing player does not have to remove casualties from under the template anyway, I say you remove whole models.
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    Partly incorrect.. You MUST remove models under a template as the only casualities. This is different from blast weapons

    Why? Because you may only remove models within the weapons maximum range. The flame template = the maximum range of the flamer and thus you may not remove models outside of it

    However the other part about removing whole models is correct, you must remove a model wherever possible and may not give each model 1 wound in that example

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    Well that seems to also be partially incorrect....It is possible to have a model in a unit that is not hit but still within range of the template. Think of how small the template is close to the firing model.
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    All right, enough of this mixing up of 3rd and 4th Ed rules. Page 31, under 'Template Weapons':

    "These are...such as flame throwers"
    "As with blast weapons, casualties inflicted by template weapons do not have to be taken from amongst the models actually covered by the template, but must come from within the rage of the firer."


    Swing the template around, anyone that could be hit may be chosen as a casualty. Stop the template where it hits the most models and work out wounds.

    As per multiwound models page 27, whole models must be removed. After working out casualties, remove models enough to total the wounds. Any leftover wounds must end up on one model.

    The casualties must have been within the possible range of the template, but not necessarily where the template was actually laid when wounds were calculated.

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