First off i'd like to say I know the rules and how they work. What exactly Im looking for are IN PRINT reasons why anything can fire a rapid fire weapon + assault
As it stands in the 4th edition rulebook nothing in the game can rapid fire + assault as "stable platform" only affects heavy weapons (If you disagree read pages 29)
Am I missing something since I assumed that stable platform (Yes it isnt a real term, just a coined phrase most use) applied to rapid fire as it did in 3rd, and I havent questioned it until now
The rulebook states "Models carrying rapid fire weapons that wish to charge into close combat in the assault phase may not fire in the shooting phase" Period
WHere as the entry under heavy weapons states " Infantry units that fire heavy weapons in the shooting phase may not charge into close combat in the assault phase , although some rare units may be an exception to this"
Then
"Note: Vehicles, Monstrous creatures, riders on bikes (including jetbikes) and blah blah blah may fire and move with heavy weapons, etc"
I notice this as a rather massive omittance or intended change? This means that Bikes cannot fire bolters and charge, Chaos Terminators cannot fire and charge, hell even vehicles cannot charge (Dreadnoughts) if for some reason they have a rapid fire weapons
Im mainly looking for opinions from the big rule people here, like Uzi, Wolf, etc.. Please if you argue that Im quoting the rules wrong Im just going to ignore it and wait for real posts as I want to see if anyone can find me a ruling to the contrary
On another very odd note, the rulebook states
"An INFANTRY model armed with a rapid fire weapon can shoot twice at targets up to 12" away" .. What that means is that bikes, jump infantry, cavalary, etc cannot shoot twice period. I find that amusing, even if that does seem like a stupid error. Im more concerned with the rapid fire + charging.
If you read the new SM codex and look under terminator armor you'll notice that it only says they may move and fire with heavy weapons, nothing about rapid fire. Bikes have 0 mention of them either
I found this quite fascinating from a rules perspective
As it stands in the 4th edition rulebook nothing in the game can rapid fire + assault as "stable platform" only affects heavy weapons (If you disagree read pages 29)
Am I missing something since I assumed that stable platform (Yes it isnt a real term, just a coined phrase most use) applied to rapid fire as it did in 3rd, and I havent questioned it until now
The rulebook states "Models carrying rapid fire weapons that wish to charge into close combat in the assault phase may not fire in the shooting phase" Period
WHere as the entry under heavy weapons states " Infantry units that fire heavy weapons in the shooting phase may not charge into close combat in the assault phase , although some rare units may be an exception to this"
Then
"Note: Vehicles, Monstrous creatures, riders on bikes (including jetbikes) and blah blah blah may fire and move with heavy weapons, etc"
I notice this as a rather massive omittance or intended change? This means that Bikes cannot fire bolters and charge, Chaos Terminators cannot fire and charge, hell even vehicles cannot charge (Dreadnoughts) if for some reason they have a rapid fire weapons
Im mainly looking for opinions from the big rule people here, like Uzi, Wolf, etc.. Please if you argue that Im quoting the rules wrong Im just going to ignore it and wait for real posts as I want to see if anyone can find me a ruling to the contrary
On another very odd note, the rulebook states
"An INFANTRY model armed with a rapid fire weapon can shoot twice at targets up to 12" away" .. What that means is that bikes, jump infantry, cavalary, etc cannot shoot twice period. I find that amusing, even if that does seem like a stupid error. Im more concerned with the rapid fire + charging.
If you read the new SM codex and look under terminator armor you'll notice that it only says they may move and fire with heavy weapons, nothing about rapid fire. Bikes have 0 mention of them either
I found this quite fascinating from a rules perspective