Cc With Characters

[bonekrusher]

Character combat still has me confused.
In the rule book on page 51 under assault
So I take this has you must be in base with the character only ones can died are the ones in base with the character. If this is wrong please tell me why?
Bonekrusher :wacko:

[King Ulrik Flamebeard]

I'm assuming this is 40k not fantasy, being as page 51 in the BRB is obsticales. Please watch which area you post in, Fantasy and 40K have sperate areas.

KU

=Moved=

[justinb67]

nope, u r close tho.

IC's are separate units in CC. So treat it as a 1 man unit. This means that the IC must be in b2b to fight.

Now the fighting is resolved as normal. So the IC is engaged with all models in b2b, and all models within 2" of a model in their own unit that is in b2b.

In the event that your IC is engaged with multiple units, then you can choose which unit to attack with all of your attacks (you cannot split your attacks). So if there is another IC in b2b with you, then you can attack that IC.

Your opponent may choose any of the models within the unit you devoted your attacks to that are engaged (b2b or within 2" of bwb model) with the IC as casualties.

The CC system is a bit complex, but you'll get it eventually, just takes time.

Justin

[karantalsis]

Originally posted by bonekrusher@Feb 22 2005, 19:36
Character combat still has me confused.
In the rule book on page 51 under assault
So I take this has you must be in base with the character only ones can died are the ones in base with the character. If this is wrong please tell me why?
Bonekrusher :wacko:

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Not quite, the current rules are as follows, in summary:

Independant Characters (IC's) count as a seperate squad in close combat.

IC's can only attack and be attacked by models in base to base contact and those within two inches of a model in base to base contact with the character.

Characters cannot single out particular models in a squad (Except for tyranid monstrous creatures, who still can for some reason).

[Uzi-99]

Originally posted by karantalsis@Feb 23 2005, 185
(Except for tyranid monstrous creatures, who still can for some reason).

--- That reason would be specific Codex rules, which still apply... Especially thanks to the quite clear FAQ reference that explicitly states You follow Codex rules for TMCs.

We shall see whether this will apply in the next Tyranid Codex as well, though I wouldn't think so.

[justinb67]

Originally posted by karantalsis@Feb 23 2005, 105
Not quite, the current rules are as follows, in summary:

Independant Characters (IC's) count as a seperate squad in close combat.

IC's can only attack and be attacked by models in base to base contact and those within two inches of a model in base to base contact with the character.

Characters cannot single out particular models in a squad (Except for tyranid monstrous creatures, who still can for some reason).

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also. models in b2b are forced to allocate their attacks to the unit they are in b2b with. So if you have a bunch of models in b2b with a unit with an IC, you can't all pile your attacks on the IC, unless said models are not in b2b with another model.

Justin

[Anacron]

Originally posted by justinb67@Feb 23 2005, 172
also. models in b2b are forced to allocate their attacks to the unit they are in b2b with. So if you have a bunch of models in b2b with a unit with an IC, you can't all pile your attacks on the IC, unless said models are not in b2b with another model.

Er... close, but no cigar.

If you're in b2b contact with two separate enemy units, you can choose which to attack. If you're within 2" of two different friendly models that are in b2b with two different enemy units, you can again choose which to attack. Whether one of the units is an IC is irrelevant.

If you're only in b2b contact with a single enemy unit, you can only attack that unit.

[justinb67]

Originally posted by Anacron@Feb 23 2005, 13:40
Er... close, but no cigar.

If you're in b2b contact with two separate enemy units, you can choose which to attack. If you're within 2" of two different friendly models that are in b2b with two different enemy units, you can again choose which to attack. Whether one of the units is an IC is irrelevant.

If you're only in b2b contact with a single enemy unit, you can only attack that unit.

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Hmm... I thought that is what I said. Maybe I didn't describe it clearly enough.

Justin

[Anacron]

Maybe you did. Maybe it's just me who can't read properly. :wacko: :rofl:

[bonekrusher]

P51 come from the little blue rule book that comes with the box set and yes it is
40k. Thank you for clearing up the CC question.
Bonekrusher