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    Deamon summoning/ Deep strike

    What happens if I scatter into an enemy or friendly unit? do they land as normal and I just move the models out of the way? Or do I lose the DSd units as if they had scattered off the table? thanks


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    If you can't place the first model of the unit when deepstriking, due to beeing in occupied space, or within 1" of an enemy model, you loose the entire squad. summoned daemons have a little more leeway, as you still place the ordnance template, and can place them upon it, thus leaving you more space to place them accordingly.

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    I have wondered this also. Here's my take on the subject:

    I could not find any reference to the minimum amount of space necessary for friendly model placement. There is a 1" limit for enemy models but only the rule preventing multiple models from occupying the same space limits friendly models.

    I have read in multiple places that friendly models can be moved to allow the DS unit to appear. This is under the assumption that friendly models will not prevent the DS from happening.

    The new rules changed the way DS units are deployed but I still cannot find a direct reference describing what happens when scattrering into friendly troops.
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    If U take a Daemon Summoning
    My daemon will destory if they are 1" from the enemy
    and fallen into "impossible terrain"
    "impossible terrain" includ "enemy units" and "table out" ... etc
    and my question is ... did my own units count as a "impossible terrain"

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    No, your own units will not kill a DSing unit. You move the existing squads enough to be able to place the DSing squad on the board. Your own troops can be within 1" of each other so you only have to make enough room for the new unit.
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    and ...
    do Rhino or Land raider ... ect count as "impossible terrain"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordCreampuff
    No, your own units will not kill a DSing unit. You move the existing squads enough to be able to place the DSing squad on the board. Your own troops can be within 1" of each other so you only have to make enough room for the new unit.
    That's a debatable point, since it could be claimed that your friendly models are Impassable Terrain (since two models can't move through each other, and cannot occupy the same space). This is certainly the most sportsmanlike way to play it though. The same applies to Tanks.
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    I forget where I read it but supposedly this is the ruling from GW. I know, I know, GW can never be relied on for straight answers and I don't think it was in an "official" FAQ. So you can do whatever you want but I try to find the friendliest solutions to problems so everyone can enjoy the game.
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    This is what I believe the rule to be.

    1. Roll 2 Dice and a scatter Dice.
    2. Place a model from the squad the said distance and direction.
    3. Place remaining models around the first until it makes a circle, and continue to do so until the whole squad is on the table.
    4. If the first model lands in Impassible terrain, within 1" of an enemy model, off the table edge or on an enemy vehicle then the entire unit is destroyed.
    5. If the first model is okay, then any other models which fall into the above categories are also killed.

    Hope thats clear.

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