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um in the space marine codex it says that a commander can be given any item from the armoury does a weapon from the armoury have to be on the model like does the model have to hold that weapon or do u just righ down he has that weapon??
Anything that can be respresented should be represented on the model -- especially major items like weapons. If you're still in the process of figuring out what works for you, then I suggest you get your opponent to agree to let you not represent things until you decide upon a final configuration. When you don't have items represented on the model, however, you certainly should tell your opponent what the model has.
Why do the survivors remain anonymous -- as if cursed -- while the dead are revered? Why do we cling to what we lose while we ignore what we still hold?
Name none of the fallen, for they stood in our place, and stand there still in each moment of our lives.
--Duiker, "Deadhouse Gates"
Equipping a model with something that is not represented on it is called using a proxy. In tounaments, this is simply not allowed. In a friendly game, you should follow simple rules of etiquette regarding proxies:
1. ASK YOUR OPPONENT'S PERMISSION to use proxies. If he doesn't want to use any of his own, it's not really fair to be able to put anything you want on your models...especially if your opponent has gone to the trouble of buying, painting and converting cool weapons and equipment.
2. INFORM YOUR OPPONENT OF ALL OF YOUR PROXIES at the START of the game AND WRITE THESE DOWN. This prevents confusion later in the game (e.g., "did that Dreadnought have a lascannon or plasma cannon? I thought it was a lascannon...").
3. In the case of squad leaders and special/heavy weapons, you MUST make sure that the special models are somehow distinguishable from the normal squad members. If you have three Tactical squads (say, with two flamer models and one meltagun between them) and you want all their special weapons to be plasma guns, I don't care which special weapons are actually on the models, even if they're all different. However, that special weapon model might get caught by enemy fire or in close combat where he has to be removed. Also, he might get stuck at the back of the squad, just out of firing range. Saying "there's a plasma gun in each of those squads" without distictly labelling the models isn't specific enough. Saying "these three special weapon Marines are all carrying plasma guns" is fine.
Last edited by Inquisitor Solexus; March 29th, 2006 at 07:43.
"HQ, my LOS is blocked by a soda bottle. I'm moving to unmask my guns."
"Negative! The soda bottle is the Carnifex!"
"Dang proxy models!"
-Cmdr. Kren, www.tsoalr.com
it is allowed for you to have your commander carrying a sword and to have a bolt pistol holstered at his side however...it is assumed that he draws the pistol when needed.
but proxy armies are between you and your oponant...if they agree then you can use anything to represent anything (its a bit confusing however...and irritating when a lunchbox represents a raider with the whyches inside represented by terminator models)
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