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He's listed as having I5 in the book and on my army builder even though he wields powerfist, so is this a typo on both their parts or is he an exception to the rule since he wields those master crafted special gauntlets?
They're still power fists and so he strikes at I1. There is nothing in his rules saying anything different and the fact that they are master-crafted makes no difference in this case. Power fists on IC's is a bit pointless as they can be cut down before they strike and can be targetted in close comabt. The fact that Marneus has an additional wound over normal commanders helps even this out a little, but not much.
That said any model equipped with a powerfist still retains their original initiative and if equipped with another weapon that is not a powerfist (i.e. a regular power weapon) can still strike at their inititive with that weapon and simply use the power fist as an additional close combat wepaon to gain an extra attack. This costs quite a few points but gives them the flexibility to kill infantry models or vehicles or monstrous creatures.
Hope this helps.
Indeed, he strikes as I1 if you use the powerfists.
However he has initiative 5 for other purposes, e.g. if you chose to attack without the powerfists, for sweeping advance purposes or for attacks that require a test e.g. vortex of doom.
You Are all wrong! Powerfists do never strike at nay initiative as they ALWAYS strike last regardless if the oponents initiative is - 2 million or watever. POWERFISTS ALWAYS STRIKE LAST, READ YOUR RULEBOOK!
I think you need to do some reading....of the LO rules. Watch your tone, and if you're going to be an arrogant git - at least learn the rules before you do.
Last edited by Lordofchange; June 8th, 2006 at 01:05.
*reads rulebook*Originally Posted by Darkeagle8k
"strikes with a powerfist are always delivered at initiative 1"
and yes, that is an exact quote, word for word from the rulebook.
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No, page 46 clearly states that "strikes from a powerfist are always delivered at Initiative 1".You Are all wrong! Powerfists do never strike at nay initiative as they ALWAYS strike last regardless if the oponents initiative is - 2 million or watever. POWERFISTS ALWAYS STRIKE LAST, READ YOUR RULEBOOK!
Edit: beat me to it, same quote though.
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Haha..owned.Originally Posted by Darkeagle8k
Ookay. . . Question was answered, incorrect answer was corrected, poor posting habits were disproved of, and an unnecessary post was made. Heh. *lock*
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