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How literal is this (as far as assaults and such go?)?
Just recently got into the game and have played a few games with friends with incompelte models (nor arms or heads). I just finished fully assembling 6 boyz that are 95% painted (I find it much easier to paint before pieces before assembly). After the assembly was complete I realized that some of them are either leaning forwad over the front of the base while others have arms that come out over the front, both cases make base to base contact with another difficult cause they butt heads before the bases contact. Do I need to re-assess my Orks and make em so the front of the bases are clear and nothing hangs over?
You don't need to be that drastic. If you know that your opponent can be a real rulemonger, that discuss this with him and work something out. If he won't compromise then just turn your minis so that there will be base contact. Otherwise, just let your opponent know.
Cool, thanks! I fixed a few last night by simply cutting the bases off then reattaching the figure onto the base a little further back.
When moving or in assault all that matters is the base of the model. All measuring is done from the base. You may want to readjust your models from hanging too far over for balance reasons. Metal minis tend to fall over rather easily if they are hanging over too far.
Just out of curiousity, whats next? Maybe you can make an issue about the fact that GW didn't define the action of 'rolling' a D6 to actually mean dropping it in such a manner as to produce a random result; thus making it perfectly acceptable to just put them down with the face up of your choice?
I suppose the rule is there to stop people kitting their figures out with huge pikes and saying "Ooh, look, my weapons are reaching them". :x A bit unfair really.
I have a similar problem with my Hormagaunts, especially the old metal ones. I usually just turn the model sideways or backwards to ensure that base contact is made. When the model starts getting surrounded, my opponents and I simply accept that base contact may not be possible, so we simply agree that they are in contact.
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There are always little 1/8" slips and discrepancies to any tabletop war game. If the range from b2b is sufficient for an assault then the fact that the figures are modelled in such a way as to preclude actual b2b touching doesn't matter.
Here's where the 1/8" discrepancy comes in. He kills your model, and you remove it but now is 1/8" (or whatever) further away than he really should be. And that little bit of distance might prevent him from consolidating into your next unit. At which point he cries foul.
The point is not to get too bogged down by overly exact measuring. Be prepared to allow for a little fudge room. I use 1/4" as the minimum. If you are short by a 1/4" you can't assault me, anything less than that can be explained away by incidental nudges, table bumps, models falling over and being righted, etc in previous phases or turns that may have skewed the results.
That doesn't excuse sloppy measuring though. I do hate it when my opponent quickly measures out 12" (while holding the ruler 18" off the table top), puts the ruler down and then moves his models to roughly where 12" ought to be. I see alot of 15" moves.
Last edited by medic_4077; June 23rd, 2006 at 17:24.
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Yeah, comes down to who you're playing.
Me, I got tired of people claiming I didn't have btb, so i started turning all my genestealers backwards. If you run across someone that is being a pain, point out that you couldn't have been assaulted, or assaulted in the first place if you didn't have btb.
Also, you can always hold them to standards such as you start up to 12" in the board, meaning on turn 3, if both units started at the 12" mark (and only if, unless fleet is involved or 12" charge, or such) then turn 3 is earliest they can get in assault if one stays in place. Similarly, if a model comes in from reserves, he'll take 4 turns to get to the middle of the board.
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