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Hi, I have asked this question in the Dark Eldar section before and got many different answers with no rule quotes to back them up. So forgive me if this is classed as doubling up on posts, but is there any rule on the arc in degrees that weapons on a Raider or Ravager can rotate through and fire? For example can I broadside fire all three guns on a Ravager into an enemy squad in one turn? This can be of importance due to the lower armour value on the rear could be in danger if the arc is restrictd in any way. If it is what is actually modelled on the vehicle then how do you then class a Horrorfex grenade launcher additional weapon when there is no existing official model to gauge by. Or if it is up to the players and officials on the day then it is vague at best and bound to be exploited in some way.
So if anyone knows the answer and has an official ruling to back it up it would be appreciated greatly and thanks in advance.
As I understand it you have to be able to draw a clear line of fine, which you cant do through a vehicle with a weapon that is side mounted.
If I can stoop down and clearly see my target using my own eyes, nothing phtsically blocking the line of sight of any gun , then this alleviates shooting through the vehicle? Maybe and maybe not, thanks for the reply but I need an official ruling to back things up on this. (Not sure that the weapons are classed as side mounted, fromt mounted or whatever, and the Horrorfex?)
Have you tried calling the Hot-Line?
Hi and thanks for your help but I have to enquire as to what this "hotline" is? If you could please supply details I would greatly appreciate it. The rules and their uses are a mine field when GW don't spell them out in an intelligent manner. There are basically NO rules covering this subject and as such the only valid ruling can be supplied by the people actually playing - this of course equals anachary - but I suppose it keeps it interesting!
There is a rule..
Is the gun at the front of the raider fixed if it is then it has a 90 degree fire arch. A turret can fire 360 and a sponson can basically fire at whatever isnt blocked by the hull. A dreadnaught has a 180 degree fire arc.
Its in the vehicle section of the badly laid out badly explained "rulebook". If you want I'll edit this in the morning with the page number. (my rulebook is out in the shed or Id tell you know)
I remeber all of that except for the fixed 90 degree bit.Originally Posted by Gallowglacht
As I recall the horrofex doesn't give any modeling guidlines right? In that case it's down to you to do domething WYSIWYG. The easiest thing to model is a fixed mount, but you'll have a tactical advantage if you make a turret high on the model. I don't think there's any official rule for that it just sort of falls out logically.
I mean there are no rules classifying exactly what the raider or ravager weapons are in relation to their arc of fire. Are the side ravager guns "side mounted", is the gun on the front fixed or not. These weapons are not Leman Russ side sponsons, they are not Basilisk type fixed barrels and they are not walker mounted "twist at the waist" 180 degree assault cannons. All this is covered in the Rule Book but not the open top skimmer weaponery that we use and it does make a difference especially on the Ravager, it having weaker rear armour that needs protecting at all costs. It is an advantage to have the vehicle facing one way and have all the guns face to bear in another. Are house rules the only ones applied here or do official rules exist?