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I was playing the Imperial guard with my Dark Angels in a recon mission. The one where you have to get a scoring unit into the enemy's deployment zone. I charged my Chaplain into a squad of 7 and killed them all.:shifty:
After I killed the squad I moved him into the enemy's deployment zone. I realized I would win because he only had one scoring unit and I had two. At the end of the battle we looked into the 40k book to find that a independent character by himself doesn't count as a scoring unit.:cry:
So now to my question. Does an independent character count as a scoring unit or am I misunderstanding? And if it doesn't count why not?
An independant charachater without a retinue at 50% or above (or 25% for Cities of Death) does not count as a scoring unit. This is partly because one guy can't really "hold" territory. Yah an IC can be nasty but they decided nope not scoring. On a side note, because he's not scoring you don't get VP from him, ever.
That's not true. If he is wounded, then the enemy gets half of his total points cost in Victory Points, and if he is killed, the enemy gets a number of Victory Points equal to his total points cost.Originally Posted by BerserkWolf
Very true. IC cant hold territory. In reality a single gun emplacement could easily kill character i dont care if he is a space marine captain and wears the skin of a fire breathing scale covered lizard. Having said that.
If the commander a support squad (bodyguard for most armies) then he can. As long as the unit he is with is still a "scoring unit"
Just a question, a blood angels chaplian counts as a scoring unit as long as he still has the majority of his squad of deathcompany or a quarter in case of cities of death even if he didn't recieve additional death company right.
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That's correct, yes. Blood Angel Chaplains are the only ones that can capture without taking a Command Squad, as they come with one included in their points cost.Originally Posted by Deek
It's true, IC's can't hold objectives, but a single Obliterator could (when a much more expensive charecter couldn't) or a Whirlwind with no guns.
In fact I have seen a game with an immobilized but fully gunned LR on an Objective only to lose it to a Dreadnougth with both arms missing! mad.
So take nothing for granted in 40K objective taking.
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Bit misleading. In this quoted example then the retinue/command squad the item that is scoring. The IC counts for nothing in objective holding as others have already stated.Originally Posted by Deek
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Independent characters themselves are not scoring units for quarters and such, but still award victory points based on the number of wounds they have.
The retinue is scoring for table quarters, regardless of the presence of the leading character. So, if the character is killed but half of the retinue lives at the end of the game. Thus they take the table quarter/objective.
Okay, then here's a follow-up question:
If I have a Captain and 5-man terminator command squad, and it takes 3 casualties, does it still count as 50% for scoring purposes? In other words, the Captain can't claim it by himself, but does he count towards "starting strength" if he's with a command squad?