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Bigs180 · November 10th, 2006, 18:06

Last week, i played a game where i had a squad of Orks inside cover. my Chaos opponent assaulted me with a Bloodthirster, and i was forced to fall backafter i failed the leadership test. then i wondered if the 10 initiative counts for the Sweeping Advance rolls. nobody at the store knew, and the GW rules line was closed, so we did it the fair way and rolled to see weather i would get the 10 initiative for sweeping advance.

Now im wondering, if any of you can clarify if you do get the 10 initiative for sweeping advance when retreating from cover.

Sinjin · November 10th, 2006, 18:31

It's not something specified in the rules, but think it can be deduced that the init bonus ends after combat. Plus, the initiative bonus is not your guys suddenly becoming quicker. It's a representation of you being ready to recieve a charge.

So, logically (I know, not always the very good way to make a ruleing, but often the best we have) I would say no.

Without the rulebook here in front of me it's the best answer I can give. Maybe someone else can provides an actual rules reference one way or the other.

Rork · November 10th, 2006, 18:58

Pg 43 BGB under "Sweeping Advances" - read the first note in that section.

Based on that, the answer is no.

Lamenter · November 10th, 2006, 19:43

You always use the models' basic initiative for this purpose.

So any bonuses you get (from furious charge or cover and so on) do not apply.

November 10th, 2006, 18:06	#1 (permalink)
Bigs180 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Florida Posts: 86 Rep Power: 31	Falling back from Cover Last week, i played a game where i had a squad of Orks inside cover. my Chaos opponent assaulted me with a Bloodthirster, and i was forced to fall backafter i failed the leadership test. then i wondered if the 10 initiative counts for the Sweeping Advance rolls. nobody at the store knew, and the GW rules line was closed, so we did it the fair way and rolled to see weather i would get the 10 initiative for sweeping advance. Now im wondering, if any of you can clarify if you do get the 10 initiative for sweeping advance when retreating from cover.

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Lamenter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 528 Rep Power: 65	You always use the models' basic initiative for this purpose. So any bonuses you get (from furious charge or cover and so on) do not apply. __________________ Shut up and play.

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November 10th, 2006, 18:31	#2 (permalink)
Sinjin Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New York Age: 35 Posts: 821 Rep Power: 35	It's not something specified in the rules, but think it can be deduced that the init bonus ends after combat. Plus, the initiative bonus is not your guys suddenly becoming quicker. It's a representation of you being ready to recieve a charge. So, logically (I know, not always the very good way to make a ruleing, but often the best we have) I would say no. Without the rulebook here in front of me it's the best answer I can give. Maybe someone else can provides an actual rules reference one way or the other.