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Admiral Dacius · February 25th, 2007, 20:06

Hello all,
Just a quick question. Does the rulebook that is included in the BFM box set contain everything you NEED to play the game, Or are there more advanced rules in the $50.00 sucker that I need to see. I know that the Big book has stories and what not but i can live without that.
thanks to all who answer!

Caluin · February 25th, 2007, 20:12

SMITE!

Oh, wait, that's a fair question. All right then. Smite delayed.

Joking aside, yes, the BFM rulebook contains everything you'll need to play Standard Mission games, which make up 95% of all games played. The only thing you'll miss out on are the Kill Team rules, the non-standard missions, fluff, modeling tips, and army descriptions.

But as for playing the actual game itself? The BFM rulebook is plenty good, and I know people who use it far more than they use the regular, bigger rulebook.

Admiral Dacius · February 25th, 2007, 20:16

HAZA! for saving $50.00 that can go towards my assault marines!

tarzen · February 25th, 2007, 21:02

Caluin hit it on the head.

BFM is great as it has the exact same rules (minus extra stuff) and you get models, and it's cheaper.

There are times where the bgb is great (special missions) but all straight out games are covered in the bfm rules.

Enjoy the extra squad you can afford=)

Ancalagon · February 25th, 2007, 21:08

Everyone needs a rulebook, but the small one is perfectly adequate for the rules in both 40k and FB. If you ever want to play special missions, then yes you will need the big one, but chances are you'll have an opponent who has it anyway, giving you all of the nice special mission goodness without any of the cost.

Wicky · February 26th, 2007, 01:45

Hi,
I agree with all the above and just would like to add the fact that even the page number references are the same for both the full size Rule Book and the pocket size one. This is especially handy when cross referencing to the Wargear book and following threads here online when page numbers are quoted. Plus the point that the smaller book is infinitely easier to carry around and faster to thumb through when fact finding. I only have the hard bound larger Rule Book because it is more impressive with the coloured art pictures and looks “very” official when arguing points of law with my opponent.
Something that the smaller “Battle for Macragge” book does lack is the visual impact of the larger version – but as you say, for the money saved……………..
Cheers.

tarzen · February 26th, 2007, 03:32

And to follow up on wicky's point, the BFM book hurts less when you hit someone with it after they are shown how wrong they are.

Canew · February 26th, 2007, 04:16

I might add the BFM book is MUCH more portable, and you can be pretty sure that if you play in a store the big honking hardcover will be available when/if needed.

Triumph Of Man · February 26th, 2007, 05:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Dacius

Hello all,
Just a quick question. Does the rulebook that is included in the BFM box set contain everything you NEED to play the game, Or are there more advanced rules in the $50.00 sucker that I need to see. I know that the Big book has stories and what not but i can live without that.
thanks to all who answer!

If you've got a friend with a rulebook (or even a communal club one) you don't need one at all. After you play for a while you'll pretty much memorise everything important.

Jakester · February 26th, 2007, 18:05

One thing thats nice about the big rulebook, is the ability to leave pages open, sitting there, ready to read at a glance!

Try and do that with the little one, and the spine will break, and pages will go everywhere.

February 25th, 2007, 20:06	#1 (permalink)
Admiral Dacius Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 181 Rep Power: 30	Do you NEED to buy the rulebook Hello all, Just a quick question. Does the rulebook that is included in the BFM box set contain everything you NEED to play the game, Or are there more advanced rules in the $50.00 sucker that I need to see. I know that the Big book has stories and what not but i can live without that. thanks to all who answer!

February 25th, 2007, 21:02	#4 (permalink)
tarzen Son of LO Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,037 Rep Power: 70	Caluin hit it on the head. BFM is great as it has the exact same rules (minus extra stuff) and you get models, and it's cheaper. There are times where the bgb is great (special missions) but all straight out games are covered in the bfm rules. Enjoy the extra squad you can afford=) __________________ My armies: 16,000+ of Eldar (only need flyers) 7,000+ of Nids (want heirophant) 6,000+ of Space Marines (need rever titan) 4,400+ of Cygnar (all models for the faction) 1,500+ of Legion (just started)

February 25th, 2007, 21:08	#5 (permalink)
Ancalagon Rushing Jaws Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: University of Durham, England Age: 20 Posts: 1,079 Rep Power: 43	Everyone needs a rulebook, but the small one is perfectly adequate for the rules in both 40k and FB. If you ever want to play special missions, then yes you will need the big one, but chances are you'll have an opponent who has it anyway, giving you all of the nice special mission goodness without any of the cost. __________________ Thou shalt remember: Warhammer Fantasy armies do NOT have Codices. They have Army Books. Learn thy lesson well, for otherwise a great anger shall rise within me, and none shall be safe from my terrible vengeance. LINK - My swordmaster unit conversion project

February 26th, 2007, 01:45	#6 (permalink)
Wicky Dark Eldar Zealot Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Menai Sydney Australia Age: 48 Posts: 2,346 Rep Power: 65	Hi, I agree with all the above and just would like to add the fact that even the page number references are the same for both the full size Rule Book and the pocket size one. This is especially handy when cross referencing to the Wargear book and following threads here online when page numbers are quoted. Plus the point that the smaller book is infinitely easier to carry around and faster to thumb through when fact finding. I only have the hard bound larger Rule Book because it is more impressive with the coloured art pictures and looks “very” official when arguing points of law with my opponent. Something that the smaller “Battle for Macragge” book does lack is the visual impact of the larger version – but as you say, for the money saved…………….. Cheers. __________________ In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves.

February 26th, 2007, 03:32	#7 (permalink)
tarzen Son of LO Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,037 Rep Power: 70	And to follow up on wicky's point, the BFM book hurts less when you hit someone with it after they are shown how wrong they are. __________________ My armies: 16,000+ of Eldar (only need flyers) 7,000+ of Nids (want heirophant) 6,000+ of Space Marines (need rever titan) 4,400+ of Cygnar (all models for the faction) 1,500+ of Legion (just started)

February 25th, 2007, 20:12	#2 (permalink)
Caluin Gone fishin'. Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 28 Posts: 5,876 Rep Power: 105	SMITE! Oh, wait, that's a fair question. All right then. Smite delayed. Joking aside, yes, the BFM rulebook contains everything you'll need to play Standard Mission games, which make up 95% of all games played. The only thing you'll miss out on are the Kill Team rules, the non-standard missions, fluff, modeling tips, and army descriptions. But as for playing the actual game itself? The BFM rulebook is plenty good, and I know people who use it far more than they use the regular, bigger rulebook.

February 25th, 2007, 20:16	#3 (permalink)
Admiral Dacius Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 181 Rep Power: 30	HAZA! for saving $50.00 that can go towards my assault marines!

February 26th, 2007, 04:16	#8 (permalink)
Canew Matt who??? Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Age: 35 Posts: 1,859 Rep Power: 64	I might add the BFM book is MUCH more portable, and you can be pretty sure that if you play in a store the big honking hardcover will be available when/if needed. __________________ Mickey: "You're just making this up as you go along!" The Doctor: "Yuuuup. But I do it brilliantly!" Current WIP: The Avengers of Dyeshr: Peace, through superior firepower.

February 26th, 2007, 18:05	#10 (permalink)
Jakester Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada! Age: 20 Posts: 318 Rep Power: 34	One thing thats nice about the big rulebook, is the ability to leave pages open, sitting there, ready to read at a glance! Try and do that with the little one, and the spine will break, and pages will go everywhere. __________________ I play my 40k with friendly fire. Finally fixed the link!

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