I did a couple of searches but my problem is probably just to obvious, I just picked up 40k again after a 8 year absense and in the old system there was a weapons book with the basic rules set that handled all weapens and weapon rules.
I now bought codex: SM, build an army but have to select a "power weapon" from the wargear list, it don't state what my options are, now I bought the 40k rulebook and guess what, still nothing, do I need to buy the weapons book just to know what I should select, Power Sword/Axe/Maul/Bunny?
In the rulebook it says "see codex for details" what am I missing...
2. These days there is no difference between a Power Sword, Power Axe, Power Maul and so on. They all count as a Power Weapon. And you can find the rules for Power Weapons in the Assault Phase Section of the Basic Rulebook.
3. Powerfists do not count as Power Weapons, they count as Powerfists. And again - you can find the rules for those in the Assault Section.
Well, thats what I did now, read the rules, thick book I thought, but not more then about 80 or so pages of rules, but it's all pretty clear now, and indeed a lot more simple :yes:
Anyways, thanks all, and yeah, I'm happy to be back
Now if GW can hurry up with my ordered parts I can build my army
Thank god someone else understands my pain and 2 people in 1 post. There are major differences in the game from 2nd edition to the current one. One wonderful new thing is that games no longer take a whole afternoon and you can usually get 2-3 games in on a afternoon with a little luck. Also a lot of the unit rules and weapons rules are really simplified.
Here's the bad news, all those combat modifiers, and different weapon types went out the window, reference cards.. gone... shock attack gun gone (which may be good if you don't play orks). A power weapons is simply that and is standard across all 40K armies now.
Every now and then i deploy and forget i can't overwatch....
Yeah, but s7 banshees that kept you from attacking first turn of combat were better.
Parries just forced rerolls of ops rolls. Mastercrafted kinda took it's place. Combat is faster and generally sucks compared to 2nd ed, seeing as numbers don't win fights anymore, unless they can somehow inflict wounds (not really the case with most armies).
Vehicles suck now (as transports) and all die horrible deaths to the lightest sneezes (besides the falcon and monolith).
No more force cards, and force weapons aint nearly as cool as before=(
And yeah, no more bonus to armour saves or modifiers=(. I loved watching marines take 6+ saves.
4th > 2nd. I missed 3rd edition completely - and when I got the rulebook for 4th ed, I loved how much faster the game had become. Those vehicle damage charts were so annoying... each section had different armor values and different possibilities to damage it. Keeping track of everything was such a pain.
And no more Jain Zar stopping you from attacking (or was it reduce to WS0?) for the first round, and if you happened to survive, you still couldn't in the second unless you rolled a 4+... and her 2-parry blade of doom. Not to mention her Xena thrown weapon... 'Oh look, I hit you on a 2 and wounded you on a 3 - I get to hit another person now within 2" (your squad coherency)'!
Man...someone should buy the rights to that and put it back out alla Classic Battle Tech....or throw back 1st/2nd edition D&D.....It seems like it would be more fun. Battles become more epic...etc....Too bad I never played it.
Another one here returning back to W40K after a 13 year (so 2nd edition, though played a fair bit of 1st edition when I was a wee-one) break.
Why has no one mentioned the insta-vehicle-killing Harlequin's Kiss of 2nd ed (or was that 1st ed..)? I gather it's been nerfed a bit now though but, likewise, vehicles look like they're made of paper too!
And the number of Death Company is randomly generated now? Curious stuff.
I havn't checked the rules on it yet, but your Harlequins Kiss comment makes my kringe, thinking about batteling Eldar, Warp Spiders made me want to kill my oponents, ARGHH another squad gone, I hope they're all llost in the warp :yes:
Anyone from 2nd ed and from Melbourne wanna 2nd ed game????
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