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Ok, so last night here was the situation.
I had a squad of assault marines hiding behind an L shaped wall, Size 3, that we deemed blocked LOS. A jetbike unit(Autarch) moved his 12" up to just in ouside the wall on the other side of the corner. There was just enough room on the inside corner to fit him but I wasn't sure if he could assault over it and get in that little nook. Going around was not an option if he wanted to be in assault range this turn.
Under Jetbikes it says they can ignore Difficult terrain, but unlike Jump Troops there is no mention of ignoring obstacles which I assume is what this wall would qualify as. Maybe jump troops fly higher, maybe they don't. Its one of those situations I find to be poorly described. Also I'm not sure if you can assault troops if you don't have LOS yet, that just seems wierd.
Minis such as Jetbikes and Jump Infantry can ignore obstacles, this is true.
However, jetbikes have the option to hover over terrain, like skimmers, so, what your opponent was correct.
The is no requirement to have line of sight to charge a unit. However, saying jetbikes ignore difficult terrain is misleading. Their movement rate is unimpaired, but assaulting through difficult terrain on a Jetbike triggers a Dangerous Terrain test.
on page 54 Bgb it states under the heading "Jetbikes" - "Movement Phase" - "....able to move completely over difficult terrain" and "...end up on top of difficult terrain" and further can pass through area terrain. This covers every aspect in the 40K game for the granting of movement except for assaulting. Under the heading "Assault" on the same page it states "... can not move over difficult terrain in the assault phase........are assumed to be close to the ground."
So you were correct in your assumption and your opponent was wrong in trying to assault you through the wall, thats my take on it.
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Cannot move "over" means that they must instead move "through" and incur the dangerous terrain test. The charge can still happen. Moral of the story is think twice about treating free standing walls as area terrain! Seems like the real issue is the wall should have been WYSIWYG-Impassable rather than Size3-Difficult.
Last edited by InquisitorAffe; June 21st, 2007 at 08:12.
Thanks for the replies guys. Yea that wall was meant to be impassable and that section on pg 54 under jetbike assault covers it perfectly. I must have skimmed over that like 3 times and not caught it. It was late I guess. I still would have lost but my boys would have had a sweet, sweet double flamer assault on the Harlie squad just on the other side of it Thanks again.
He could, however, have ended his movement on top of the wall and then charged you. (unless some other circumstance negated this.)
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Jet bikes cannot move over impassable terrain, he'd still be left with the options of either going around if it's impassable or rolling dangerous terrain if it's difficult.