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Old January 29th, 2006, 18:46   #11 (permalink)
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Old January 29th, 2006, 19:13   #12 (permalink)
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Twenty three lists. One slot left. First come, first served. Although, I'm not going to start the VoteWar right after I recieve the last list - I'd like to take a few days to myself and relax a little bit, ya know?
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Ah. Wasen't me then. Perhaps we will face off sometime soon?
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Old January 29th, 2006, 19:31   #13 (permalink)
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I dunno who, but it was an IG list with lots of plasma. I got boned because of escalation.
You can thank Ghandi for the Imperial Guard list that beat you. He's a friend of mine, so go easy on him.

Here's a question for those participating - I have an odd entry. Harlequins. The list creator and I have agreed that while they are listed on Chapter Approved website and I said I would allow Chapter Approved items, that Harlequins are not classified as strictly legal. Also, their rules are a bit tweaky but are freely avaliable to anyone that wants to download them.

The person who submitted the list and I have decided to leave it up to everyone else - if I get enough people who aren't keen on the idea, he'll simply submit a more suitable list. Otherwise, I'll allow the Harlies.

So lemme know what you think.
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I have no problem with the Harlequin army being used at all. It's an army like any other, so I don't see why not. They have their strengths and weaknesses, and, as I've seen before are beatable.

I can probably guess who sent in a harli list.
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I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree for the use of Harlequins. Almost no one knows the rules. And even tho there posted who has actually seent hem in action? Who has seen their strengths or weaknesses? There is a HUGE difference between seeing an army on paper and playing against it or seeing it played. But the biggest objection I have is that it's not a real army. To quote GW: "Please remember that the rules and scenarios published here are not 'official', and may not be entirely balanced. They are intended to add an extra level to your games of 40K, not necessarily provide a complete, balanced new army."

I know we agreed to Chapter Approved, but only official chapter approved. Most players who use Harlies use the list and rules from a completely different site not certified by GW. And those rules are even more balanced.

So I'm gonna have to say no. Not enough people know about this army for it to be voted for accuratley and the rules are not official, nor entirely balanced.
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Old January 29th, 2006, 20:20   #16 (permalink)
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I am against it I think its a bad idea as very few people know the harlequins, so if someone makes a point about them no one will know how to counter it. Allow the person to give you a new list though
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Agreed. A new list would be fine. No need to disqualify the person.

I've been in the hobby for 8years and although I've read all the rules, I've never once played against them or even seen them played.
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I have to object to using Harlequins.

Yes their rules are readily available, but not many people have played against them. I think the owner of the list should be able to send another one, due to insufficient tactical expirience of the masses.

Personally, I've been playing for about 5 years now and I've never even seen an army of them in person let alone played against them.
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I wish there was a way for them to be fielded since they're pretty cool. However, I agree with the other points made here. The limit of my experience with them is: I proxied them twice. And once was with the list that isn't GWs version. And this was about a year ago. And even that places me as more knowledgable than many. So, "what they said" (the people who posted before me).
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Well, I can only hope this third Votewar is better for me than the last two. Each time I've gotten through the first round with total pwnage, only to be whooped hard in round two. It happened with my Dark Sentinels against Marines (I think), and it happened with my Word Bearers against a freaking Devastator Company (damn, I hate the idea of static lists; and a Dev company is a Reserve Company, not a Battle Company). I hope the higher amount of armor I have in my list here helps.

As for Escalation, I don't see why people are complaining. It's as much a part of the game as Deep Striking and Infiltrating. You have to adapt your play style to counter them, so why not do the same for Escalation?

One more thing. I'd like to suggest including the Night Fight, Patrol, and Rescue missions in the next Votewar. It'll add a nice flair to the mix, I should think. Last game I played was Patrol, and it was a refreshing change from the Standard missions without needing a different Force Organization Chart.
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