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Warmaster Phthisis · August 17th, 2005, 01:06

I found a flaw there Toastee. The chapter uses Leman Russ' geneseed, Space Wolves geneseed, right? Well, because of the Canis Helix the High Lords refuse to use Leman Russ' geneseed to create new chapters. Another major reason is that the Space Wolves geneseed is very difficult to work with, and the debasement of their implantation practices due to their highly ritualized implantation procedures and their inclusion of tribal pain rituals that decrease the chances that the implants will be accepted. Only one other chapter, other than the Space Wolves themselves, was founded that used the Space Wolves geneseed, and that was the Wolf Brothers in the Second Founding. This chapter is no more and in fact didnt even survive to the 32nd milennium. The difficulty with the SW geneseed and their technological debasement led to SEVERE mutation within the chapter and it was disbanded. My take on it is that all the newly recruited marines went Wolfen. The mutations would have had to be severe indeed for them to be disbanded, as there are many successor chapters that show all kinds of mutations, such as the Flesh Eaters or the Black Dragons, that are allowed to exist.

There are plenty of Primarchs that you can chose from, or you can simply say that it is unknown to them which Primarch their geneseed stems from. The Blood Ravens were not told which Primarch their geneseed came from either. If youre looking for a more tribal or feral feel, remember that Jagati Kahn's geneseed is still used and lends itself well to a more feral organization.

One more option though. The Adeptus Mechanicus, in the past, has toyed around with mixing geneseed from two primarchs together. Normally this was in order to fill in the corrupted parts and re-stabilize geneseeds that were debased, such as the Raven Guard and Imperial Fists. Its a fairly risky process from what Ive heard about the techinique, as you either wind up with stable geneseed or one that will cause rampant mutation, or one that is just unusable. I think this is what was done with the Blood Ravens.

If you insist using Space Wolf geneseed, then maybe you should consider mixing it with a more stable geneseed to make it useable.

August 17th, 2005, 01:06	#14 (permalink)
Warmaster Phthisis Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 137 Rep Power: 45	I found a flaw there Toastee. The chapter uses Leman Russ' geneseed, Space Wolves geneseed, right? Well, because of the Canis Helix the High Lords refuse to use Leman Russ' geneseed to create new chapters. Another major reason is that the Space Wolves geneseed is very difficult to work with, and the debasement of their implantation practices due to their highly ritualized implantation procedures and their inclusion of tribal pain rituals that decrease the chances that the implants will be accepted. Only one other chapter, other than the Space Wolves themselves, was founded that used the Space Wolves geneseed, and that was the Wolf Brothers in the Second Founding. This chapter is no more and in fact didnt even survive to the 32nd milennium. The difficulty with the SW geneseed and their technological debasement led to SEVERE mutation within the chapter and it was disbanded. My take on it is that all the newly recruited marines went Wolfen. The mutations would have had to be severe indeed for them to be disbanded, as there are many successor chapters that show all kinds of mutations, such as the Flesh Eaters or the Black Dragons, that are allowed to exist. There are plenty of Primarchs that you can chose from, or you can simply say that it is unknown to them which Primarch their geneseed stems from. The Blood Ravens were not told which Primarch their geneseed came from either. If youre looking for a more tribal or feral feel, remember that Jagati Kahn's geneseed is still used and lends itself well to a more feral organization. One more option though. The Adeptus Mechanicus, in the past, has toyed around with mixing geneseed from two primarchs together. Normally this was in order to fill in the corrupted parts and re-stabilize geneseeds that were debased, such as the Raven Guard and Imperial Fists. Its a fairly risky process from what Ive heard about the techinique, as you either wind up with stable geneseed or one that will cause rampant mutation, or one that is just unusable. I think this is what was done with the Blood Ravens. If you insist using Space Wolf geneseed, then maybe you should consider mixing it with a more stable geneseed to make it useable.