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Old August 28th, 2005, 19:25   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by mEGALOMANIAC
Incinerators in the PAGK units are a waste, take either 0-2 psycannons or nothing at all. DE get fleet of foot, meaning that unless the DE player is horridly bad, you won't ever have a chance to shoot those templates (same advice vs Eldar & Nids). Psycannons have the range, ignore just about every armor save the DE have, can take down their vehicles as well as infantry, and since they ignore invulnerable saves, can smoothly destroy their HQ/Elites before combat is joined. I'd put either one psycannon in each unit, or two in one unit & none in the other. Don't go crazy with 'em, but they ARE my weapon of choice against DE-like forces.
~ Sorry mEGALO, but, psycannons are FAR from being able to shred a DE HQ. (I have knowledge in the Eldar area as I play them too). The Dracon/Archon, whichever he takes, can have a 2+ invulnerable from shadow field. So you might be saying "well so what? psycannon ignores invulnerable saves." But he can choose to take it as a normal save type thing and will ALWAYS be rolling a 2+ save for any and all attacks (besides a c'tan wep). My friend plays DE (I play Eldar) and he has a streak of 53 2+ saves made in a row right now. BUT! the psycannon WILL shred Wyches (6+/4+). BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM! DARK ELDAR CAN HIT YOU ON FIRST TURN! WITH THEIR WYCHES! YOU WILL NEVER GET TO SHOOT THE PSYCANNONS TO MAKE THEM USEFULL! THEIR RAIDER CAN MOVE 12", HAVE THEM POP OUT 2", THEY CAN THEN FoF 1"-6", AND CHARGE 6"-12" DEPENDING ON THEIR COMBAT DRUGS WITH I-5 OR AUTO-GOING FIRST! (sorry if it seems like im yelling or something, I just want to get the point across.


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Same comment about the Incinerators on those Dreadnoughts - stormbolters with psycannon bolts are a better choice versus DE. If you want some variety (since Assault Cannon are overkill vs such fragile vehicles), a Plasma Cannon/Missile Launcher dread would rock here - templates only work at long range versus such fast armies.
~ For this battle you want a Lascannon/ML dread. YOU MUST TAKE OUT THE RAIDERS BEFORE THEIR CARGO TAKES OUT YOU!

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Originally Posted by mEGALOMANIAC
Now, the HQ. GKT, while awesome, aren't the best choice versus some armies, notably DE & Orks. They'll tear up his Troops, sure, but if he gets his HQ/Elites into CC with your GKT squad, you've just lost your squad. Seriously. I'd actually go with a lone BC, and spend the points saved on another full (or nearly so) PAGK squad. Join the BC to a PAGK squad, and the extra 22 stormbolter shots will tear a hole through the DE.
~ I could go either way here.

@Dr_Nick - What type of DE does your opponent play Kabal or Wyche Kult? That info could help us a lot more. (please read the caps sentences as they are your best friend against DE).
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