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Ok, this has been nagging me ever since i got the new HE book back in November. Even though he was cursed by Khaine, the instrument of this curse was Morathai, a follower of Chaos, Slannesh to be exact. Now, was this just chaos getting back at Aenerion, or are even the chaos gods the whims of khaine, being used to exact his curse.
I think that in reality, Khaine is Khorne. The Elves were fooled by a Chaos God before, and with Khaine's uncanny resemblance to Khorne--despite the Dark Elves vehement protest that Khaine is much more elegant and graceful(or however you put it)--I find it hard to believe that the two are dissimilar. Khorne tricking another god into exacting his own revenge may seem a bit out of character for him, but nonetheless, he's out for bloodshed, and I don't think he cares who spills it or whose blood it is.
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Khaine and Khorne were most obviously seperate deities in the dawn of the warhammer world. Khaine was present in Warhammer before the collapse of the polar gates, meaning he was certainly distinct from Khorne (And if you are a follower of the whole Fantesy is really in 40k camp, then Khaine is even more obviously seperate).
Whether oir not this distinction is still true can be debated. Khaine could have been eliminated, or even absorbed, by Khorne. Though I personally do not beleive so, because the Dark Elves are far to into subterfuge and magic and such for Khorne to allow them to be his followers.
Khorne tricking here is highly improbable though. Khorne does not trick. If he wants something done, He smashes it to tiny bits (And in the case of Slaanesh's gift to him, glues it together again. Before smashing it again. ETC) He doesn't do subterfuge. he doesn't have the mind for it. He is essentially, ANGERY SMASH. He doesn't get very different from that. Except SLIGHTLY LESS ANGERY SMASH. And what tells his followers to do is ANGERY SMASH.
Surprisingly Khorne is hard to manipulate because he is so universally angery. Try and tell Khorne what to do and he will smash you. Though Slaanesh once tricked him into attacking tzeencth, it wasn't like he would have not attacked tzeentch anyways. that is just what he is. Blood shed, no matter who's blood is shed, even his own.
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In terms of their formation, using the most common invoked source of warhammer "gods" as extension of sentient beings, Khaine is a primal force invoked by the Elves general mentality in terms of death, murder, and such. Khorne was formed by human kinds equivelant. So I suppose you might call them related, but one and the same?
Not really, since Elves aren't just humans with pointy ears. They have a distinct psychology (and again, follow 40k and invoke Eldar and it gets even more profound). What god their belief forged wouldn't just "merge" with a human god because they had the same end result, somethings dead.
Side Note: What I find most amusing is that the Ork gods have more in common with Khorne (yet clearly aren't Khorne!), yet that comparison is almost never drawn, because the Ork gods don't have names that start with Kh. Though in the end I think the Ork gods are more embodiements of Conquest, to Khornes Rage, and Khaines Murder
One has to wonder... how much can you trick a guy who was going to hit the target anyway, and was going to hit you eventually too.
Last edited by BFGMidwesternPrisoner; April 9th, 2008 at 00:29.
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