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okay, got a kind of pointless question but its been bugging me.
I have a wood elf army and im going to playing Tomb kings...fine.
But we're having real trouble thinking why in the name of Sigmar such a battle would take place? They are both such localised forces. I cant see a tomb king army trundling across the old world to attack athel Loren any more than I can see a party of wood elves going Tomb raiding...or would they?
I know wood elves have gone walkabout as sort of preemptive strikes against chaos and the tomb kings armies are"on the move" so to speak but it would really be great to get some creative ideas why this might be happening, something that could possibly lead to a small campaign.
and yea, i know i can use my imagination and i do have a few ideas, but would be great to hear some others.
Who says that all Tomb Kings strong holds must be in the new world. I mean there are a few paragraphs here and there to suggest that Chaos has a few strong points in Lustria, you could use a similar idea. Failing that why does the undead army have to be Tomb Knigs of Khemri. Who really knows how many unmarked tombs exist in the many mountains near Athel Loren (wink wink.)Originally Posted by kias alba
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Eons ago a noble wood elf set out on a quest to "discover the new world", his name wasn't Columbus. Unfortunatly, he died, falling foul to a horde of undead. Years later, his great-great-great-great grandson sets out with a small group of loyal followers to discover the truth behind his ancestors death, and to find the walking stick he was said to have carried, rumours to hold untold magic power.
This could work, just try and stick to elves, lean away from forest spirits.
Just my thoughts!
Jesus saves!!! Everyone else loses a wound.
Good idea . Wood Elves sometimes do leave their forest to explore the outer world, perhaps a Wood Elf earlier could have adventured into the world of Undead and stolen a vital sarcophagus to stop it from coming back, and placed it under the firmest forest magic. The Undead then venture into the forest to try and get it back!Originally Posted by tus666
Sorry if this sounds a bit far-fetched, it is all I can think of :yes:
"Well... that hurt" - Vampire Jon Skellan (Mannfred's right hand man) after being beaten up, falling down an underground waterfall and being impaled by a stalactite.
This sounds infinitly more dwarvish than elvish, especially wood elvish ^_^Originally Posted by tus666
If fluff teaches you one thing, it's that elves learn from the mistake of others, and try not to repeat them. So I wouldn't think about a warband of elves strolling out of thier homes to pace the great deserts. Dried up leaves are no good now aren't they ?
It could be said that a party out of athel loren journeying to a southern forest, parting after whispers of the rebirth of chaos incarnate, could stumble on a tomb king's campaign in the area to reclaim what was lost the the orcs while thier great slumber.
Plain but rather less dwarfy.
Perhaps they have heard of a lost kindred that has managed to survive in the harsh lands of Khemri or in the Southlands [a large/hidden oasis or the Southlands] and the elves have been tasked with discovering if these rumours are true.
As I recall, the Barrow Kings that are buried in and around the woods of Athel Loren have much in common in terms of ancestry and culture with the Tomb Kings of Khemri. Remember that not all of the Khemrian Empire was desert and reached far further than one might imagine, hence why you find that places outside Khemri have absorbed a measure of their culture. If you've ever seen the Army of the Cairns used by the Lichemaster during his battle with the Wood Elves (seen in White Dwarf), it is a thinly veiled combination of the Tomb King and Vampire Count lists with a few unique units added to taste, but most of the units are based on the Tomb Kings army and so you could conceivably use them to represent units raised from these barrows.
Dont forget those loyal followers of the Dark one (Nagash for all others), who were forced from the land of Khemri by the great King Alcadizaar. Those whom still lived could have spread throughout the old world and erected small barrow tombs to honor the deaths of their new kings. When Nagash finally released his death call these tomb Kings and their followers could have awoken and saught their homeland and their ancient kingdoms. Being stopped by Althelor, the Wood Elves fought back aginst the Skeletal Armies wishing to stop the bloodlines of thier noble kind to ever be tainted by whom they believed to be Vampire Minions.
...just thrownin that out there
Well you can say that the tomb kings are on the March to search for an ancient artifact that is in the hands of an empire army that made the mistake of taking the fast route home across athel loren. Anyways this item is now in the hand of the wood elves and the tomb kings have re-directed forces to athel loren.
thanks for all the ideas guys.
i like keeping the look of the terrain and the army as real as possible so we didnt want to play a tomb kings army looking all egyptian and just say that they were barrow kings, but I do like the followers of nagash idea and a displaced tomb in the old world.
i think if its a tomb kings in athel loren scenario then it at least means i can use my forest spirits.
its given me a great idea for a new themed army. Lost kindred of wood elves in a khemri oasis is brilliant.
scratch built tree kin and treemen based aroud palm trees and boababs, turbaned wood elves, wardancers with scimitars, scouts and way walkers in desert colours, standard troops in lush tropical colours...cool!
will keep you posted and open for any cool ideas on the subject.