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This is my first attempt at a battle report, so be gentle guys
I had 2000 points of Druchii's finest, mostly infantry (I'd recently bought
some really well-painted figures and wanted to try them out).
General: Hero, great weapon, blood armour, lifetaker (min-combo that I forgot to use)
Sorceress, Level 2, 2 dispel scrolls. (Caddy)
DEW1: 19 Warriors with shields, standard bearer, musician
DEW2: 20 Warriors with shields, full command
RXB1: 10 Wariiors + rxb
RXB2: 10 Warriors + rxb
RXB3: 10 Warriors + rxb
DR: 5 Dark Riders
WE1: 15 Witch elves, full command, manbane
WE2: 15 Witch elves, full command, witchbrew
CoK: 5 Cold One Knights
Daemon Prince of Nurgle (cloud of flies + something else)
PB1: 18 Plaguebearers + full command
PB2: 15 Plaguebearers + full command
BL: 15 Bloodletters + full command
Dogs: 6 Khorne Dogs
5 bases of Nurglings
1 Nurgle chariot
Terrain: There were a couple of hills and a stream running left to right (difficult terrain)
with a bridge in the centre.
Dogs ... Nurglings ... Furies ... ... chariots ... Prince ... PB1 ... BL ... PB2
My (poor) deployment
DR ... WE2 ... RXB1 ... RBT ... DEW1 ... RXB2 ... DEW2 ... RXB3 ... WE1 ... RBT
The Witch elves were screened by the rxb units that were slightly ahead.
He moved first, marching across the board. His spells were dispelled.
I advanced more slowly, trying to set up the dogs for a "bait and switch"
with the Dark riders and Witch Elves. My firing was too spread out and
only killed a few daemons. In fact, that was the case throughout my turns -
until I ran out of missile units on turn 4. My spells weren't any better.
Apart from 1 spell in turn 3 ...
He charged 2 of my rxb units with his Prince and the furies. Surprisingly
both survived (for now). His dogs failed their charge (my DRs fled just
far enough) Again his magic did nothing. In my turn the witch elves destroyed
his dogs, and almost disappeared off the board in their exuberence.
Unfortunately my set up had meant that none of the RXB units were supported
by another unit (my CoKs had swanned off across the the river, the witchelves
were out of arc). I also charged his chariot with my general, and his unit
disappeared in a puff of instability.
Not too bad ... until my rxb units in combat both decided to flee, freeing
up his flyers.
His Prince was unable to charge (nothing in arc) but flew into the centre of my army
to spread terror. His nurglings charged my Cold One Knights ... and spent the next
3 turns doing nothing much to each other. His furies destoyed my central RBT.
My units avoided running away by the skin of their teeth, maneuvered
to set up further charges, and caught his furies with my reformed Dark Riders.
Turn 4 The turn it all goes wrong for me.
His charge(s) force my last unit of rxbs to flee - only to be destroyed by the
Daemon Prince. The rest of his infantry advances across the river.
He even gets a spell off - the one that drops a unit's stats by 1.
In my turn, I charge his daemon with my witch elves, charge his plague
bearer unit with warrior unit 2. This was meant to be a 2 pronged charge
with warrior unit 1 simultaneously hitting its flank. Unfortunately I didn't
quite get the arc right. Still next turn I'd get a flank charge ...
I even managed to get the black horror spell off: 13 figures affected,
1 kill. Grrr. Combat wasn't much better, although I did injure the Daemon
Prince. And the last of his furies died.
He flank-charged my warriors, crushing them. Killed my RBT with a plaguebearer
charge, followed up into my sorceress (carefully placed to avoid the Prince!).
In my turn, I managed to kill his prince and my witch elves finished off his nurglings.
He killed my witch elves (2 units against one, including a flank)
I managed to hurt 1 of his plaguebearer units.
We called it at that point. I was on the winning end of a draw. By a couple
of hundred points. What had I learned?
Concentrate my fire! I always spread my missile units out too much during deployment.
Don't leave them unsupported either!
Witch Elves are really good against daemons.
When you set up a double charge (front and flank) make sure both units are in arc
Nurglings can't kill heavily armoured cavalry
Well that's it, hope you enjoyed it. If not let me know how I can improve the next one.
Man, tough luck on the black horror spell!.. what toughness were they?.. I got a black horror off against T4 dwarves, 17 of them, and killed 9... So either they were like T5 or you just had a really bad roll. Too bad, that spell could've turned the game.
Things I wouldve done differently:
-Use the RBT's to pump the single S6 shots into the prince.. gets rid of a tough, terror causing monster. +1 to hit would make it pretty easy.
-Use the Dark riders to march block the blood letters (or whatever is the strongest infantry unit). Keeps them out of the fight while you mop up the rest, then overwhelm them later.
-As you said, concentrate the RxB fire. Normally I use missile fire to get rid of a units rear rank bonus, then move onto the next unit to do the same. (usually means killing 2).
But yeah Rxb's are really weak against high toughness/ high armour things. Ive fired 20 shots at a unit of dwarves and only caused 2 wounds, both saved.
Aside from that the list is the other thing. I would drop 2 units of Rxb's and take another sorceress.. magic is better than shooting, its that simple. Black horror & soul stealer can kill upto a dozen things in one go.. it would take rxb's 2 whole games to kill that much lol.
The report was fine, but right from the start its obvious that things werent going your way, which made the rest of it predictable, I was actually surprised to read that it was a draw. You had me expecting a loss. Try to keep people guessing.
Anyway, well played.
Dark Elves - Game #28 vs High Elves: Draw
W L D
21 5 5
Thanks for the response - it felt like a defeat, even though I actually drew ...
The Black Horror was against a unit of T3! Boy I rolled badly. The "bucket of 1s" syndrome.
He also maneuvred his prince so I couldn't target it with my RBTs until after his first
charge. By then, my RBTs were busy ... I did manage to cause 1 wound on the
prince with some rxbs!
Hey dude, I'm not sure if you care, but your opponent's list was not legal. With chaos, if your general is devoted to one of the gods (ie his demon prince of nurgle) then other units and characters in the army are only allowed to have that same mark (nurgle) or be undevided. Thus the bloodletters and fleshounds are VERBOTEN!
He could have solved this problem by making the daemon prince undevided.
Well, it was a friendly match, and I'd okayed him using Khorne as he didn't have
any more nurgle daemons. I did draw the line at Tzeench horrors though.
tough luck on the rolls =/ sounds like a pretty good fight though.
the army listing was a daemonic legion according to SoC. it was a legal list based on that rule set. the general does not guide what units you can take. plaguebearers,bloodletters,daemonettes,horrors become "true core" allowing you to take Special units and Rare units of the corrisponding Greater Power.
so... he could actually have taken the horrors legally, HOWEVER they cannot be accompanied by Flamers... those become a Special unit on their own.
-you mentioned you witch elves almost fell off the board. how? all daemons are immune to pyscology and they take instablity tests instead of breaking.
my advice when fighting this type of listing is try to get a larger army ie. more warriors with spears and or corsairs. most dark elf troops are gonna get mowed down by the big S and T's of daemonic troops. you can score the most wounds by simply outnumbering him and *getting the flanks*
also, the daemon prince is a large target. you can shoot at large targets over normal sized troops.
better luck next time
Last edited by Geisticon; August 2nd, 2006 at 00:08.
Well, my mate checked the rules and said his Damon Prince wasn't a large target. I'll
have to check that again!
My Witch Elves almost fell off the board because I destroyed his unit on the turn I charged
and my unit was frenzied - so they continued to overrun ... almost of the board. Not sure if
it was strictly by the book, but it seemed fluffy at the time.
Hopefully we'll have a rematch in a couple of weeks.
Well done, despite the bad rolling. A good battle report
"Well... that hurt" - Vampire Jon Skellan (Mannfred's right hand man) after being beaten up, falling down an underground waterfall and being impaled by a stalactite.
the prince is not a large target, as it doesn't say so in the armies book (compare the prince to the dragon. one says so, one doesn't)Originally Posted by Geisticon
however, he cant claim cover from proximity to friendly troops, unless he found a unit with all unit strength 3.
also, no biggy, but black horror works off the models strength, not toughness. so, if the
t3 unit you mentioed were the bloodletters, then you should've accually needed 6's to wound!!(s5)
unless you're playing marauders, chaos armies are pretty good against black horror. big bases, s4 or more or skermishers (beastmen) and a legions army is even better cause they then get a save afterwards!!!
Last edited by timk1111; August 4th, 2006 at 00:53.
wow ur right... for some reason i thought they were large. my bad :cry: